In what circumstances would you support reorganization or closing?

[UGAalum94]

I'm for circling the wagons, but I want to make sure that the danger is outside the circle when we do. Unless there are some clear expectations about how a GLO should do the re-organizations the right way and an understanding that they are supposed to rarely be done at all, I think we will all end up looking (and being) worse if it happens more frequently.

I agree though with the sense that the DePauw situation could have blown up in the press with any re-organization. Theirs was kind of a perfect storm of what can go wrong, but most situations would not have played much better in the press.

[LPIDelta]

I am pretty sure every NPC group is paying attention to the situation at De Pauw and re-evaluating how they handle these situations and taking stock. We can't make a clear cut way to do this because every situation is different.

[AGDee]

I also want to add.. it's easy to criticize the women at the helm of an organization, but we need to remember, these women LOVE these organizations and volunteer unbelievable amounts of time to the organizations. When they make decisions, they make the best decision they can at the time with the information that they have and their number one priority is the well being of the organization as a whole. They are putting their hearts and souls into our organizations, even if they don't always handle something the best way.

[UGAalum94]

Originally Posted by Heather17

We can't make a clear cut way to do this because every situation is different.

I don't know that we could have a single defined way, but I think we could define a few acceptable options.

Although every situation has its differences, I think you could categorize them and know what your options were.

[UGAalum94]

Why wouldn't expansion rush work in any situation where re-organization or closing/quickly re-opening would work?

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Why wouldn't expansion rush work in any situation where re-organization or closing/quickly re-opening would work?

I think sometimes the current chapter members really aren't motivated to work as hard as an expansion rush would require. Not that they don't care, but it is a lot of time and effort and if you've been COBing for the past 4 years straight you might not have the energy anymore. It probably also depends on how set in their ways the Greek culture is. Is it the members or the chapter itself? How will the other sororities react to the recolonized chapter vs. the current members working harder?

[LPIDelta]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

I don't know that we could have a single defined way, but I think we could define a few acceptable options.

Although every situation has its differences, I think you could categorize them and know what your options were.

Where are these options to be kept? Who is going to grade the groups on how they handle these things? Who will decide what is acceptable? What would work for one group, will not work for others. Human and financial resources are different--priorities and values are different among orgs. I appreciate where you're coming from, but its not anyone's place to tell another org how to do things.

[UGAalum94]

Weird: I really thought I had responded, but the post didn't appear.

I think that people in the general public, press, university administration will all grade and judge and that all groups would be better off if they agreed to follow generally agreed upon protocols. I think they could be enforceable however all other NPC guidelines are or aren't.

Even though every situation is different, we do have rules and guidelines for rush, and we end up having similar policies in a lot of other areas too.

The problem with just letting each doing it's own thing is that big blow-ups like the DePauw situation reflect on everyone. Since we all know that our groups have also reorganized chapters or closed and immediate re-opened them, it's not as if we can honestly say, "well, we would never do that." And I think that whatever autonomy each group would give up would be more than rewarded by the peace of mind (and better PR and image) that would come with having a well defined process.

[honeychile]

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Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Weird: I really thought I had responded, but the post didn't appear.

I've been getting that a LOT on GC lately!

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[LPIDelta]

What I would suggest is that if you want your organization to handle things a certain way that you approach your leadership and let them know that. I hope most of our organizations would know how to deal with reorganizations and that they should treat their members in these situations with dignity and respect without rules telling them to do so.

Again, I believe most organizations are looking at the De Pauw situation and carefully considering how to handle similiar situations in the future, realizing that every situation is going to be different and needs to be handled that way. I don't think another set of unanimous agreements from NPC are going to help.