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Old 03-08-2007, 01:27 PM
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On a side note, hate crime legislation is stupid.
Of course it is when heterosexual white males are the least likely group to be targeted because of hate.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:14 PM
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Of course it is when heterosexual white males are the least likely group to be targeted because of hate.
Oh I understand. I was under the impression we already punished people for crime. My bad.

When I get mugged by a black guy downtown, I'll thank my lucky stars he didn't call me cracker while he was doing it. Whew.
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:29 PM
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Oh I understand. I was under the impression we already punished people for crime. My bad.

When I get mugged by a black guy downtown, I'll thank my lucky stars he didn't call me cracker while he was doing it. Whew.
For the record . . hate crime focuses on a totally different type of crime . .crime based on a persons protected category. . . seeing as how you the chances of you being a victim of a crime BECAUSE of your race or sexual orientation are slim to none- it is not surprising you would make the comment that hate crime legislation is "stupid".

I also find it interesting that you used an Af.Am man in your example as the perpetrator of a crime . . .but if he were to rob you because you are white - I would hope he would be prosecuted for a hate crime just as this evil person should be
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Old 03-08-2007, 02:51 PM
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For the record . . hate crime focuses on a totally different type of crime . .crime based on a persons protected category. . . seeing as how you the chances of you being a victim of a crime BECAUSE of your race or sexual orientation are slim to none- it is not surprising you would make the comment that hate crime legislation is "stupid".

Precisely. There's a reason why this legislation impacts religious, racial/ethnic/cultural, gender, and sexual orientation minority groups.
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When I get mugged by a black guy downtown, I'll thank my lucky stars he didn't call me cracker while he was doing it. Whew.
Did he target you because you were white or target you because you are a suitable target for a robbery? In other words, was he motivated to commit a robbery ANYWAY when he found the opportunity and just happened to have chosen a white guy? That's what hate crime legislation gets to the bottom of. And it takes more than being called a "cracker" during the commission of a crime for it to be a hate crime.

Your attempts at sarcasm show more than anything that you have no understanding of 1) what hate crimes are 2) the significance behind the legislation and 3) how social dynamics ALWAYS factor into the law.
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