At Least We're Not at the top...

[john1082]

Some sort of regional structure might not be a bad idea.

There is a standing committee on the Constitution & Stat Code. They are looking at many things from discipline to organization to you name it. This effort requires those committee members to read and review the governing documents of other fraternities. There are some fraternities that do have a regional structure using volunteers. Some function as super advisors while others have judicial authority, budget approval tasks and the like.

The C&SC committee might discuss a regional scheme, but I think that it is too early to look for it in '08. Plenty of other things need to be looked at and revised before the Fraternity stirkes out into the uncharted territory of a regional structure with authority*


* I say authority to differentiate the concept from the regional conclaves that we used to have which entailed a drunken weekend at the host Zeta's house and obnoxious conduct with respect to sorority girls that we knew we'd never see again!

Originally Posted by GammaZeta

Ok, so what do we do? Responsibility should be at the top of the organization, or at the very least HQ in general.

Tom, I'm not talking about any of my experiences or anyone else's, I'm talking about article after article after article that has been posted on these forums over the last several months. Mostly negative.

Ultimate responsibility falls on the HQ, they're the ones that monitor the chapters, cut the checks and have ultimate authority.

Maybe having a centralized HQ isn't working so well. Maybe we should divide HQ into regions, better suited to handle each areas needs, keep closer tabs on the chapter? After all, we are an INTERnational fraternity. Why have one building in the middle of Indiana?

[Tom Earp]

[QUOTE=john1082;1404378]Some sort of regional structure might not be a bad idea.

There is a standing committee on the Constitution & Stat Code. They are looking at many things from discipline to organization to you name it. This effort requires those committee members to read and review the governing documents of other fraternities. There are some fraternities that do have a regional structure using volunteers. Some function as super advisors while others have judicial authority, budget approval tasks and the like.

The C&SC committee might discuss a regional scheme, but I think that it is too early to look for it in '08. Plenty of other things need to be looked at and revised before the Fraternity stirkes out into the uncharted territory of a regional structure with authority*

John, I was not sure which to copy on this yours or GammaZeta.

Centralization does give a central point of reference such as IHQ at Indy. This is the center of coordination for things like The Paedagogus, C & C, Directory, or anything else that comes under the umbrella of running a multi Million Dollar Business. Check any International GLO or National GLO and see if they have a central office. Placing Regional Offices becomes unweilding and over burdensome with office staff and that cost money!

We as an Iternational have one of the best set ups for coverage of any GLOs. It is called the ELCs. They are the Regional arms of IHQ.

Most GLOs have volunteers from Alums who are Regional Managers and cover a very small area so to speak. Say one state only or just a few Chapters. Fine, or if the Eastern or Western areas have a lot of Chapters it will take more volunteers.

Maybe if We had all of the money in the world, we could have a hell of a lot of toys in the chest. Being a Greek of a certain Organization is a BUSINESS, not only at the National Level, but at the LOCAL Level. Local Budgets are smaller than HQs, but it is all the same! $$$$ !

[GammaZeta]

Ottor, were you talking to me in your last post?

Can HQ fix all problems? No. But there is a point where it becomes apparent that something is not being done and it is getting out of hand.

Should HQ fix all problems? Yes. Whether it's fair or not, ultimate authority AND responsibility rests at HQ.

[Ottor 246]

GammaZeta,

I was writing to everyone, but yes, I was responding to your post.

[GammaZeta]

"Saying, "Why doesn't IHQ do something?" while you watch a chapter go down the tubes is (to me, anyway) the same as watching some street thug beat up an old lady and asking, "Where are the police?" You're already there...do something!"

Ottor, I'm not exactly sure what I should be doing to prevent a chapter 1,000's of miles away from committing crimes. I'm fairly sure that if I call them up, they'll just hang up on me if I say "Hey guys, quit it!"

Traveling is out of the question.

However, I DO KNOW who can change them. HQ! They have authority to do so, to step in and give orders.

So by speaking up, HOPING to get HQ's attention on this matter and saying something, does help a little.

Also, if we follow your logic, then what time should me, you, Tom, John, Doc, PiL, Em, Joiner, LXAAlum and every other living member of LXA meet up to have an intervention at the chapter?

Friday's good for me.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by GammaZeta

Ottor, were you talking to me in your last post?

Can HQ fix all problems? No. But there is a point where it becomes apparent that something is not being done and it is getting out of hand.

Should HQ fix all problems? Yes. Whether it's fair or not, ultimate authority AND responsibility rests at HQ.

Thank you GammaZeta, maybe you have figured it all out!

NO, IHQ is not the total answer, IHQ is a central point for LXA and that only as I stated.

IHQ can only point out problems and have ELCs visit!

They give reports back to IHQ. If some continue to complain about the efficienty of IHQ, it does no good! Not because it is just you, but, they have a lot on their plate when Members and Chapters continually keep not following the Rules. The Rules that are voted on by Members/Brothers to enact.

We have one of the best Opperations from IHQ as anyone!

Just embrasse it and work within the structure!

Do what has been disscussed. Okay!