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02-20-2007, 09:34 AM
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I know the guy too!
The first LCA badge I ever bought on ebay, I got from him. Since then, I have met him in person several times, and he's a very nice guy. As Docroc says, he's a doctor - a cardiologist I believe.
The Sigma Chi pin is from the college where he attended med school. That's one of the reasons he wanted it. He really didn't think it would sell for so much, though. Sometimes people place high bids "just to be sure".
As for the money, maybe the seller is putting his/her kid through college, or donated it to some charity. Who knows. Who cares? The money simply changed hands - it didn't disappear off the face of the earth.
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02-20-2007, 11:56 AM
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Gamma, I understand your argument and I agree. However, most people want something tangible for their money. That is why chapters have plaqes with donors names on them.
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02-20-2007, 04:47 PM
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History is just that, history.
If we did not care about history then why strive so hard to find Warren A. Coles burial place?
As docroc stated it is there to do and find and keep. Well, kind of.
Keeping History whether it be a small peice of metal as you say GammaZeta it is History, mine, yours or ours. Ergo, the great quest to find Warren Coles burial place.
Do you still have your Badge? Do you want to keep it and why? Does it mean anything to you? If so, why?
The articles that Mike Raymond writes about History are the first one I read when our C & C comes out.
As some sage once wrote, if you do not watch History, then one is apt to make the same mistakes! Well in my words of course!
History is 1 second ago, the future is now and forever!
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02-20-2007, 06:01 PM
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No Tom, you are wrong.
There is a vast difference between the burial place of our founder and a generic pin.
Please tell me exactly what a pin has to offer to "history" that we already don't know? It's not like we don't know our symbols. It's not like we don't know what they mean. It's not like we don't know what our CoA is. And anyways, we have a PICTURE of it.
Here's what I'm trying to say.
To blow $3,000 dollars on a shiny old pin is one thing.
To blow $3,000 dollars on a shiny old pin in the name of "preserving" history and to "better" LXA is a completely different argument.
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02-20-2007, 06:11 PM
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While that may true in your perception, others feel differently and that is our or their decission!
You still did not answer My question, do you still have your Badge and why?
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02-20-2007, 08:24 PM
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No Tom, I do not have my badge. It never mattered to me, it was just a cheap plastic manufactured pin. I DO have the stuff with REAL history though. My brick, photos, certificate, stuff that cannot be manufactured.
Now Tom, no one has explained to me exactly what contribution to our history does a small metal pin make???
If someone could possibly explain to me how buying an old pin for $3,000 TRULY benefits our "history", rather than helping a brother out with a scholarship.
Tell me what secrets it would reveal. What part of our history is missing that the pin could fill in? How does having the pin increase our actual knowledge of the past?
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02-21-2007, 01:20 AM
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Now Brandon, I would consider what you just said to be a personal insult. If you want to start talking about sacrifices for one's chapter, you WILL lose to me.
Look at what you said: I started MY chapter. It was MY brainchild.
You know what your problem is? I'll tell you.
"I fought for that BADGE, and I'll be damned if I'll *ever* look at it as "just a hunk of metal." That BADGE shows the person standing next to me that I *am*"
I don't need a badge as a prize to fight for. I don't need a badge to let other people know I am a Lambda Chi Alpha. I don't need a badge as a physical reminder of what I am. I don't need a badge to have others ask me about it. I don't need a badge to spread the good word. I don't need a badge to show I am proud of what I have done.
Why?
Because I LIVE being a Lambda Chi Alpha. People know it by my ACTIONS, and not some cheap piece of metal I wear. Obviously you don't act like a Lambda Chi, or you wouldn't need that badge to remind everyone.
You can have your badge. You can have my badge. You can have 100 badges. You can have a badge worth $10,000 or $100,000.
It doesn't matter. Unlike you, I don't measure being
a Lambda Chi by a badge. Unlike you, I put value into the important aspects of being a brother. Unlike you, I'm there for my brothers, and not off in my room polishing my BADGE.
I've been to 3 funerals in the last 6 months for family members of brothers I barely know. Driven 3-4 hours for the wake after work. Why? Because I would rather show my love for my brothers by my actions. That is what really matters.
It's sad really. You only wanted to be a Lambda Chi to wear the letters? To wear a badge? You can take my badge, because obviously you don't know what it means. You don't know what it is to be a brother.
Were you even awake for ritual? Did you even understand it? I don't care about some cheap plastic badge that there are 1'000's of.
Funny thing. You say the BADGE shows the person next to you that you are a Lambda Chi. I don't need a badge to show people I am a Lambda Chi.
I LIVE Lambda Chi Alpha.
You just WEAR Lambda Chi Alpha.
You can take my hunk of metal right now, and in your eyes I may not deserve it.
But if I could, I would take away your brotherhood and association. In my eyes, you don't deserve it...
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02-26-2007, 09:37 PM
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I've held this badge!!! I met him at our chapter's chartering. He is a noteworhty Sig and I am thankful he purchased this pin. I think they might be doing a story on this SIGnificant pin in our magazine. I'll pass on the article, I think it will clear up this discussion.
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02-27-2007, 04:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SigmaChi005
I've held this badge!!! I met him at our chapter's chartering. He is a noteworhty Sig and I am thankful he purchased this pin. I think they might be doing a story on this SIGnificant pin in our magazine. I'll pass on the article, I think it will clear up this discussion.
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Thanks for the post!
As I mentioned, to a Brother, I am sure if one of this significance of LXA would come up it would go to big bucks for us!
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02-27-2007, 05:00 PM
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There is a difference between an old pin, and an old pin that has some historical significance.
I'd REALLY like to know exactly HOW a pin holds historical significance, or if it's just old. Did it belong to the founder?
I'm going to be very disappointed if the reason it's going for over $3,000 isn't good.
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02-27-2007, 05:08 PM
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yes i too am curious as to why this pin went for so much.
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02-27-2007, 07:27 PM
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AGE would be the answer.
Can you even imagine whar a LXA Delta Phi Badge would go for?
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