Uh Oh

[GammaZeta]

What's the big deal?

They were re-colonized in 1994. I don't think any brothers from that time are still there.

If someone over the age of 21 wants to have a beer, go right ahead, it's their right to. I don't see anything wrong with that.

Do people think these types of rules actually prevent drinking? I've been to 7 different LXA houses, several of them being very "by the book" and had similar rules.

Guess what. The strictest chapters were the chapters I saw the most illegal activity going on in.

[PiLambda1]

I'm not concerned about the Brothers living in the house acting
up so much as I would be those visiting the house for a good
time. They are usually the culprits...

[john1082]

There is a back story here that was not mentioned . . .

[PiLambda1]

Originally Posted by john1082

There is a back story here that was not mentioned . . .

Boy I wonder what it was...That chapter was disbanded in 1984. That's before I was even born...

I gave a half-hearted search of the web, then realized that the internet really didn't even get doing much until after '85. Looks like it's gonna have to be anecdotal if this is going to come about....

[GammaZeta]

A back story from 1984???

Seriously, if every chapter was held responsibile for what happened 20 years ago, every chapter would be on probation or disbanded.

What happened 20 years ago is irrelevant.

Let the chapter be responsible for their actions. If someone from outside acts up, let the chapter suffer the consequences. These aren't little babies.

[PiLambda1]

Originally Posted by GammaZeta

A back story from 1984???

Seriously, if every chapter was held responsibile for what happened 20 years ago, every chapter would be on probation or disbanded.

What happened 20 years ago is irrelevant.

Let the chapter be responsible for their actions. If someone from outside acts up, let the chapter suffer the consequences. These aren't little babies.

CALM DOWN! Is your familial little Brother in that Zeta? You are
really putting up a fight for them.

If John says there's a back story that's not being written about,
there is one. Me saying it's from 1984 is a silly assumption and likely
irrelevant. Point blank: there's a story there because John doesn't
lie, and he wouldn't make a vague post like that unless there really was
more to the story.

Of course I don't expect them to pay for things done 20 years ago.
What I do expect of them is to be aware of what happened 20 years
ago. I expect them to realize what they got away with 20 years ago
might land their asses in prison today. It might cost them more than
their "Active" Status. People don't just go after the chapter anymore
when something goes awry, they go after you, your parents, and
anything else you have....

I'm not trying to be my Brother's keeper here. I'm trying to be my
Brother's Brother and call them out when I think a bad decision was
made.

[GammaZeta]

I don't think it was a bad decision. It's clearly not against Fraternity policy, unless I'm mistaken.

It's their chapter, who are you or any of us to criticize their decision making? They're grown men. Unless those specific men were involved in an "incident", then I don't really care what the background or story is. It simply doesn't matter.

I really don't like the fact that a current chapter and brotherhood is limited in any capacity because of something some brothers did in the past. So the chapter had an incident 10 or 20 years ago. Tell me exactly how that should effect the brothers of present?

I'm a very outspoken member, but I would never come on here and criticize another chapter for making a legal decision within the boundaries of our international fraternity law. It's called autonomy.

[john1082]

Originally Posted by PiLambda1

If John says there's a back story that's not being written about,
there is one. Me saying it's from 1984 is a silly assumption and likely
irrelevant. Point blank: there's a story there because John doesn't
lie, and he wouldn't make a vague post like that unless there really was
more to the story.

Thanks for the kind words