DePauw Rush Results

depauwgreek · #1 02-15-2007, 02:11 AM

Thank you for your reply and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this. If you would be so kind as to continue to indulge me, a few more questions popped into my head about y'all's IFC rush.

1.) Is quota the number of bids a chapter may extend, or the number of men they may accept? For example, could ABC only extend 30 bids (15%) and that's it? Or could ABC extend 30 bids, and if five men declined their bid, the chapter then bid (or in NPC terms "snap bid") five more - up to the 30? Is this what you meant by "open bids" extended after formal?

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What I called "open bids" is the same as "snap bids", and houses could do what the hypothetical ABC did in your question.
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2.) May a rushee received more than one bid?

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Through formal rush, No.
Snap Bids, Yes. It's not uncommon for some guys to receive 2 or 3 different snap bids if they are that popular but didn't go through formal rush.
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3.) "This year's quota percentage was figured with the previous knowledge that some houses had racked up violations that prevented them from reaching quota and also that some houses make/made it known that they aren't necessarily willing to take in that many guys, since some of the fraternities at DePauw cut more heavily than others."

I am still fuzzy how the chapters with violations determine quota. Is it any of the following scenarios?

Scenario A: Every chapter has the same quota set at 15%.

As I understand this, with only 200 men going through rush, if every chapter (11) had a quota set at 15%, then it was statistically impossible for every chapter to make quota. So basically, those chapters with violations didn't take 15% due to the violations. (i.e. reputation) For example, say ABC is on social probation for a year. In theory, they could still make quota of 15%, yet, few rushees were willing to pledge ABC because of the probation.

Scenario B: There are at least two separate quotas. The "max" is set at 15% for some chapters with a lower percentage for other chapters.

Say six chapters were allowed to take the "max" of 15% (30 pledges) while five chapters (the ones with the violations) could only take 2% (4 pledges).

6 chapters at 30 pledges = 180
5 chapters at 4 pledges = 20
Total = 200

So in theory, every chapter could make quota because the actual percentage (quota) was different for the chapters.

Scenario C: Neither.

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Scenario B.
One specific example, I'll refer to them as XYZ. Befor rush was ever started and anybody had an idea what quota would be, the Greek Affairs Office had determined that XYZ's quota would be the normal quota minus a percentage due to a hazing incident plus an incident at a social event.....quota was set at 15% taking into account that there would be reductions in some houses quotas that would result in not every house being able to take 30 guys and preventing the 165% problem mentioned earlier.

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Again, no problem. If you have anymore questions or something I've said is unclear, I can give you the email address of DePauw's Director of Greek Life, he'd be better to explain it all than me.

TSteven · #2 02-16-2007, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by depauwgreek

Thank you for your reply and I really appreciate you taking the time to explain this. If you would be so kind as to continue to indulge me, a few more questions popped into my head about y'all's IFC rush.

1.) Is quota the number of bids a chapter may extend, or the number of men they may accept? For example, could ABC only extend 30 bids (15%) and that's it? Or could ABC extend 30 bids, and if five men declined their bid, the chapter then bid (or in NPC terms "snap bid") five more - up to the 30? Is this what you meant by "open bids" extended after formal?

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What I called "open bids" is the same as "snap bids", and houses could do what the hypothetical ABC did in your question.
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2.) May a rushee received more than one bid?

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Through formal rush, No.
Snap Bids, Yes. It's not uncommon for some guys to receive 2 or 3 different snap bids if they are that popular but didn't go through formal rush.
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3.) "This year's quota percentage was figured with the previous knowledge that some houses had racked up violations that prevented them from reaching quota and also that some houses make/made it known that they aren't necessarily willing to take in that many guys, since some of the fraternities at DePauw cut more heavily than others."

I am still fuzzy how the chapters with violations determine quota. Is it any of the following scenarios?

Scenario A: Every chapter has the same quota set at 15%.

As I understand this, with only 200 men going through rush, if every chapter (11) had a quota set at 15%, then it was statistically impossible for every chapter to make quota. So basically, those chapters with violations didn't take 15% due to the violations. (i.e. reputation) For example, say ABC is on social probation for a year. In theory, they could still make quota of 15%, yet, few rushees were willing to pledge ABC because of the probation.

Scenario B: There are at least two separate quotas. The "max" is set at 15% for some chapters with a lower percentage for other chapters.

Say six chapters were allowed to take the "max" of 15% (30 pledges) while five chapters (the ones with the violations) could only take 2% (4 pledges).

6 chapters at 30 pledges = 180
5 chapters at 4 pledges = 20
Total = 200

So in theory, every chapter could make quota because the actual percentage (quota) was different for the chapters.

Scenario C: Neither.

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Scenario B.
One specific example, I'll refer to them as XYZ. Befor rush was ever started and anybody had an idea what quota would be, the Greek Affairs Office had determined that XYZ's quota would be the normal quota minus a percentage due to a hazing incident plus an incident at a social event.....quota was set at 15% taking into account that there would be reductions in some houses quotas that would result in not every house being able to take 30 guys and preventing the 165% problem mentioned earlier.

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Again, no problem. If you have anymore questions or something I've said is unclear, I can give you the email address of DePauw's Director of Greek Life, he'd be better to explain it all than me.

Thanks. I believe all my questions have been answered.

AGDLynn · #3 02-17-2007, 10:20 AM

On a side note, Alpha Gamma Delta's Eta Chapter was installed in 1908 but I can't remember when it closed. When I was in school, our Province Director Collegians was initiated there. I think she's the only one I've ever met. She was wonderful!

arrwgrl · #4 02-25-2007, 02:57 PM

I just wanted to clarify depauwgreek's post of the women's recruitment. Quota for women this year at DePauw was set at 33, with the possibility of an add two if you filled quota. Therefore, all houses except for Delta Zeta fiilled quota.