DePauw Rush Results

[DeltaDZ]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

"Image" keeps getting brought up. Were the decisions made on personal, physical image, or the collective image, as in reputation, of the chapter? I do think it's horrible for a GLO to kick members out of a chapter because they decide they aren't pretty enough. That's just mean, and is cruel on a very basic, human level. DZ is a strong organization, but can you really blame women for choosing not to join during rush if this is the new image DZ is presenting?

Physical image was one of the main reasons most of the women of Delta Chapter were forced into alumnae status by DZ nationals. They weren't pretty enough to fit into their steriotypical image of what a "sorority girl" should be. They kept the pretty girls and the girls who partied and drank a lot. Suddenly, girls that were right for DZ last year were kicked to the curb.
Unfortunately, DZ at DePauw had the rep of being the "fat house" with the girls that did nothing but study and nobody wanted to join a house with a rep like that. So nationals took it upon themselves to kick out all of the girls who weren't perfect in hopes of reviving the chapter. Well, Nats, you got 3 girls. Seems like that was a stellar decision to make - make DZ the laughingstock of campus where no girl in their right mind would join a house that might kick them out for not being perfect some day instead of gracefuly sliding into the history books. So much for sisterhood being forever.

[33girl]

How big are the houses at DePauw? Were there enough girls in DZ before the membership review to fill the house? Oh, and what's being done w/ it now?

Originally Posted by DeltaDZ

Physical image was one of the main reasons most of the women of Delta Chapter were forced into alumnae status by DZ nationals. They weren't pretty enough to fit into their steriotypical image of what a "sorority girl" should be. They kept the pretty girls and the girls who partied and drank a lot. Suddenly, girls that were right for DZ last year were kicked to the curb.
Unfortunately, DZ at DePauw had the rep of being the "fat house" with the girls that did nothing but study and nobody wanted to join a house with a rep like that. So nationals took it upon themselves to kick out all of the girls who weren't perfect in hopes of reviving the chapter. Well, Nats, you got 3 girls. Seems like that was a stellar decision to make - make DZ the laughingstock of campus where no girl in their right mind would join a house that might kick them out for not being perfect some day instead of gracefuly sliding into the history books. So much for sisterhood being forever.

My sympathy to you and your sisters. I, too, know how it feels to be dicked over by your HQ.

The fact that officials have kept mum about the situation is sketchy, and I really don't blame you for being so upset.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by DeltaDZ

Physical image was one of the main reasons most of the women of Delta Chapter were forced into alumnae status by DZ nationals. They weren't pretty enough to fit into their steriotypical image of what a "sorority girl" should be. They kept the pretty girls and the girls who partied and drank a lot. Suddenly, girls that were right for DZ last year were kicked to the curb.
Unfortunately, DZ at DePauw had the rep of being the "fat house" with the girls that did nothing but study and nobody wanted to join a house with a rep like that. So nationals took it upon themselves to kick out all of the girls who weren't perfect in hopes of reviving the chapter. Well, Nats, you got 3 girls. Seems like that was a stellar decision to make - make DZ the laughingstock of campus where no girl in their right mind would join a house that might kick them out for not being perfect some day instead of gracefuly sliding into the history books. So much for sisterhood being forever.

That really is sad, and I hope some DZs who are upset by the situation let HQ know about it. It sounds like HQ drastically underestimated the women at DePauw, who observed what was going on and decided they wanted no part of it.

[DeltaDZ]

Unfortunately, Nationals really doesn't care what anyone thinks. They've done everything in their power to keep this totaly under the table and it wasn't until the recent articles in The DePauw newspaper came out that people really knew the truth.
I know almost all of the Delta alumnae have been kept completely in the dark about this. When questions were posed to the alum group president - who is very active in the chapter - about the status of the house, she told everyone that the house was perfectly fine and nothing was going to happen or change. Only those alums who have connections to actives (well, former actives now) knew what was really going on. Letters have been written, phone calls have been made, but everything has been ignored. Nats was going to get their perfect house or nothing. Looks like it's nothing.

[OleMissGlitter]

Does anyone think that perhaps DZ Headquarters just wanted to keep that chapter alive because it's an older chapter for them? Also, Delta Chapter is not listed on the national website which I thought was interesting.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Look, I'm of the mind that if you want to scrap a chapter and start all over again, you REALLY start all over again. You don't pick-and-choose sisters to keep. If DZ had simply "reorganized" or closed the chapter, sadly, for numbers, and made everyone an alumna, they would not be in this situation. But because they decided to pass judgement on EACH member of the chapter individually, acting as if those women had done something wrong to deserve the treatment they got, they are in this bad PR mess.

Interestingly, the chapter Web site is still up, and it certainly doesn't look like a "fat girl" house at all. And there are numerous academic/professional accomplishments listed in one of the sections. You'd think HQ would be impressed with having smart girls as members.

[OleMissGlitter]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Look, I'm of the mind that if you want to scrap a chapter and start all over again, you REALLY start all over again. You don't pick-and-choose sisters to keep. If DZ had simply "reorganized" or closed the chapter, sadly, for numbers, and made everyone an alumna, they would not be in this situation. But because they decided to pass judgement on EACH member of the chapter individually, acting as if those women had done something wrong to deserve the treatment they got, they are in this bad PR mess.

Interestingly, the chapter Web site is still up, and it certainly doesn't look like a "fat girl" house at all. And there are numerous academic/professional accomplishments listed in one of the sections. You'd think HQ would be impressed with having smart girls as members.

agreed....and it's just strange that they are about to celebrate the chapter's 100th anniversary...

[PGD-GRAD]

I have read several recent articles on this, but I believe the DZ headquarters was surprised to learn that closing the house for awhile and going back with an empty slate was not an option. From what I understood, the Greek advisors at DePauw informed them that there were other groups ahead of them to come back onto campus, and they would not be able to just "come back on" whenever they chose.
That would change the approach of the hdqtrs., so maybe that explains part of what they did--not the method they chose, but certainly not closing altogether.
Can anyone from DePauw clarify this?

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by PGD-GRAD

I have read several recent articles on this, but I believe the DZ headquarters was surprised to learn that closing the house for awhile and going back with an empty slate was not an option. From what I understood, the Greek advisors at DePauw informed them that there were other groups ahead of them to come back onto campus, and they would not be able to just "come back on" whenever they chose.
That would change the approach of the hdqtrs., so maybe that explains part of what they did--not the method they chose, but certainly not closing altogether.
Can anyone from DePauw clarify this?

But I don't think closing down was the only option. They could have just reorganized...made all the current actives alumnae and brought in their own exec. team to interview a whole new chapter of women.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by PGD-GRAD

I have read several recent articles on this, but I believe the DZ headquarters was surprised to learn that closing the house for awhile and going back with an empty slate was not an option. From what I understood, the Greek advisors at DePauw informed them that there were other groups ahead of them to come back onto campus, and they would not be able to just "come back on" whenever they chose.

if that really is the case, I can't think of a better time for this quote...

When we assume, we make an ass out of u and me.

[PeppyGPhiB]

Originally Posted by 33girl

if that really is the case, I can't think of a better time for this quote...

When we assume, we make an ass out of u and me.

LOL I had never heard that before!

[texas*princess]

Originally Posted by PGD-GRAD

I have read several recent articles on this, but I believe the DZ headquarters was surprised to learn that closing the house for awhile and going back with an empty slate was not an option. From what I understood, the Greek advisors at DePauw informed them that there were other groups ahead of them to come back onto campus, and they would not be able to just "come back on" whenever they chose.
That would change the approach of the hdqtrs., so maybe that explains part of what they did--not the method they chose, but certainly not closing altogether.
Can anyone from DePauw clarify this?

I've been pretty vocal about this... and you know what? I don't give a furry squirrel if the campus said they couldn't just come back whenever they felt like it.

The fact that they just wanted to keep the chapter open - regardless what had to be done or how many of THEIR OWN SISTERS would be hurt in the process - really disgusts me.

I think this is a prime example of a sorority "running like a business". Who gives a crap about what the founders even started the sorority for... let's alienate some of our sisters so that one of our chapters can be "desirable" and make the 100 - year mark even if we have 3 new members.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by PeppyGPhiB

Look, I'm of the mind that if you want to scrap a chapter and start all over again, you REALLY start all over again. You don't pick-and-choose sisters to keep. If DZ had simply "reorganized" or closed the chapter, sadly, for numbers, and made everyone an alumna, they would not be in this situation.

And as is evidenced from threads that have popped up in GC, even doing that can be a giant cluster$%@k. The only time an immediate recolonization seems to work is when 1) the school is super large and there are enough women to choose from who weren't in the "orbit" of what was happening previously 2) the women who are being made alumnae truly are OK with the decision and are treated with the respect due alumnae by the national organization. And even when that happens, sometimes the more the new alums think about it, the more upset they get. It festers.

I don't think it's a coincidence that the last two recolonizations my sorority did were at chapters that hadn't been open since (respectively) Nixon and Wilson were in office.