10 year Sentence Too Light for Woman who Rented Daughter to Pedophile

[Cardinal026]

What a horrible story...I can't believe that Judge Shaw would've considered a lesser sentence originally, saying that she would be unlikely to do it again. I believe in a lot of situations about giving people a second chance, benefit of the doubt, blah blah, but to sell your daughter over 200 times? I don't care if it can be proven that she would never do it again...the fact that she DID means she should be locked up MUCH longer.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by Cardinal026

I don't care if it can be proven that she would never do it again...the fact that she DID means she should be locked up MUCH longer.

This points out a fundamental disconnect in how we view the criminal justice system - really, it's the difference between a system based on 'rehabilitation' and a system based on 'punishment' (driven by the ill-informed "paid his debt to society" notion).

In this case, it appears the initial sentence was based on a notion of rehabilitation, whereas this thread is out for justice via punishment. I'm not really sure which is correct, but that's the essence of the split.

[KSigkid]

Maybe it's because I'm just a 1L, but the timing of all this is weird to me. He was sentenced, Booker was decided, and then the sentence was reduced? That doesn't appear to be sound legal policy to me, but maybe I'm mixing up the time frame.

[Coramoor]

I would like to hear the argument for the benefit of rehabilitation. There might be some good reasoning behind it...but why let a person get away with their misdeeds for a hope of making them a functional person and introducing them back into society?

[honeychile]

I know of two women who were sold to pimps before they were teenagers. Neither of them ever entered the court system, as they truly believed that they belonged to their pimp. Both were fortunate enough to escape by the time they were 24 - over ten years of servitude. Both of the pimps are still on the streets, to my knowledge.

Frankly, I don't believe that rehabilitation for sex crimes exists. I know that dozens of aversion therapies have been tried, and none have worked - even attaching electrodes to genitalia of the offender. Even chemical castration still leaves the underlying problem, the hatred of women (or children), very much alive in the mind of the predator. Granted, I have very strong beliefs about this, having heard more about this type of crime than I ever intended, but I'd have no problem with capital punishment for a sexual offender.

[Jill1228]

Yeah the bitch needs a longer sentence. In addition, lock her up in a room with inmates full of mothers upset because they can't see their children.

Guaranteed she will get a First Class ass whuppin

[Kevin]

This happens a lot more often than you'd like to think. It's actually surprising that this case is even getting press. I haven't heard about it (except for this thread), so it might not be getting that much press.

This is where the assaultive retributivist in me comes out though... criminals like this should be treated as noxious insects to be ground under the heel of society.

(that's a quote, but I don't know who said it)

[ThetaPrincess24]

Originally Posted by honeychile

I'd have no problem with capital punishment for a sexual offender.

I totally agree. I've often gone back and forth on the issue with capital punishment, however I do think that all sex offenders (especially with those that hurt children) need to fry. My best friend's brother was abused by their 55 year old female babysitter when he was 6. I wont describe how, but it came out years later when he was going through puberty. Unfortunately this shitbag is still on the streets despite their efforts to get her locked up. To try and make him feel safe they changed and unlisted their phone numbers, changed locks on all cars and their house, changed their burglar alarm code, and then ultimately ended up moving into a new house because their son was so terrified of the basement. This child is 23 today and still has major psychological problems as a result of the abuse.

In my opinion sex offenders (and other forms of child abusers) give up their rights when they hurt children. There is no worse criminal. As a society we must not let these perps get off lightly. Judges need to be held accountable for dispicable sentences such as this.

I'm having a party if Jessica's Law becomes a federal law (25 years to life i think it is for first offense --someone correct me if I'm wrong).

[AnchorAlum]

Originally Posted by Cardinal026

What a horrible story...I can't believe that Judge Shaw would've considered a lesser sentence originally, saying that she would be unlikely to do it again. I believe in a lot of situations about giving people a second chance, benefit of the doubt, blah blah, but to sell your daughter over 200 times? I don't care if it can be proven that she would never do it again...the fact that she DID means she should be locked up MUCH longer.

Wow. I agree 100%
How in the world??? WHY is this judge still on the bench???

She's unlikely to do it again? And this is relevant HOW? Are murderers likely not to dig up their victims and kill them again?

This woman should be in prison for the rest of her life.

[Kevin]

Actually, funny enough, murderers have one of the lowest rates of recidivism of any class of criminals, yet their sentences are the most severe (or most permanent when they get the needle). In this particular case, what this mother did is on par, if not worse than (in my mind) killing another individual in a premeditated, willful, deliberate manner. On that note, the death penalty for this individual looks pretty attractive. In this case, it's not as if this mother has some sort of mental pathology (like many child molesters do). She's simply an evil person.

I agree with the Judge in that locking her up is unlikely to protect society because I don't envision her getting custody of her daughter back, therefore, recidivism isn't really an issue. Like with murder though (which as I said also has a very low recidivism rate), society does have an interest in severely punishing people like this.

[Munchkin03]

Well, no matter what she gets--does anyone really think that she'll make it in prison very long?

Women's prisons are full of women who want to be with their kids...do you think they're going to tolerate someone who willingly hurt her daughter?

I bet it was for crack, if not meth.