Now my favorite: US Airways

[Texas Beta]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

God, I miss the good old days, when you had your pass, got on the plane, had a drink or food (Real Food) and just get to where you were going.

Old days? How old are ya?

I wonder if Arab owned airliners beefed up security, besides companies which fly to western countries. Is there a need? Maybe theres some crazy white person out there, but I doubt it.

[honeychile]

Playing against type is exactly what a smart terrorist would do. That's why geriatrics are inconvenienced - for everyone's safety!

I've never flown El Al, but have heard amazing things about the security of the airlines, and the airports of Israel. It seems so simple, but it really surprised me to hear that the columns inside of the airports are made of lead, so they can absorb bullets & shrapnel.

[AGDee]

A co-worker was telling me about her flights on El Al and said that they weren't even told when the plane would leave. They had to be at the airport at 7:30 am and then boarded the plane when told. While more secure, that part sounded awfully inconvenient to me.

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

The problem is a knee jerk reaction isn't?

How in the hell does a lady of grey/blue hair in a wheel chair try to get on an Airline and have to take her orthopedict shoes off to be checked?l

Or say a much maturer man with shorts and polo shirt have to take his shoes off for a bomb? Be scanned with a wand to see if any bombs are found in his tennis shoes?

Oh, maybe the Old lady in the wheel chair had bomb in her wheel chair or the Mature older man had explosives in his tennies?

God, I miss the good old days, when you had your pass, got on the plane, had a drink or food (Real Food) and just get to where you were going.

Shut your mouth.

[AlexMack]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

The problem is a knee jerk reaction isn't?

How in the hell does a lady of grey/blue hair in a wheel chair try to get on an Airline and have to take her orthopedict shoes off to be checked?l

Or say a much maturer man with shorts and polo shirt have to take his shoes off for a bomb? Be scanned with a wand to see if any bombs are found in his tennis shoes?

Oh, maybe the Old lady in the wheel chair had bomb in her wheel chair or the Mature older man had explosives in his tennies?

God, I miss the good old days, when you had your pass, got on the plane, had a drink or food (Real Food) and just get to where you were going.

Tom, a white middle aged man did have explosives in his shoes, hence the check. That just went to show that you can never be complacent when it comes to putting passengers in a hollow metal tube full of jet fuel that flies thousands of feet in the air.
I miss the old days when I never worried about getting blown up...oh wait, I have never not worried about getting blown up. But still...

[shinerbock]

Thankfully, terrorists only fly coach. Poor bastards.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by ann.coulter2

Six imams removed from a US Airways flight from Minneapolis to Phoenix are calling on Muslims to boycott the airline. If only we could get Muslims to boycott all airlines, we could dispense with airport security altogether.

Witnesses said the imams stood to do their evening prayers in the terminal before boarding, chanting "Allah, Allah, Allah" — coincidentally, the last words heard by hundreds of airline passengers on 9/11 before they died.

Witnesses also said that the imams were talking about Saddam Hussein, and denouncing America and the war in Iraq. About the only scary preflight ritual the imams didn't perform was the signing of last wills and testaments.

After boarding, the imams did not sit together and some asked for seat belt extensions, although none were morbidly obese. Three of the men had one-way tickets and no checked baggage.

Also they were Muslims.

The idea that a Muslim boycott against US Airways would hurt the airline proves that Arabs are utterly tone-deaf. This is roughly the equivalent of Cindy Sheehan taking a vow of silence. How can we hope to deal with people with no sense of irony? The next thing you know, New York City cab drivers will be threatening to bathe.

Come to think of it, the whole affair may have been a madcap advertising scheme cooked up by US Airways.

Cont. @

http://www.anncoulter.com/cgi-local/welcome.cgi

If they're doing all that, I wouldn't let them on board either. That's nuts. If I ever get on a plane and I see that mess, I'm not getting on if they let them on the plane. Let em' go ahead and boycot, I still wouldn't let em' on.

[jubilance1922]

Originally Posted by PrettyBoy

If they're doing all that, I wouldn't let them on board either. That's nuts. If I ever get on a plane and I see that mess, I'm not getting on if they let them on the plane. Let em' go ahead and boycot, I still wouldn't let em' on.

Perhaps you should read the rest of the thread and get the whole story before you simply pass judgement on people.

[macallan25]

Yes, because God forbid we hurt someone's feelings in the name of safety.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Yes, because God forbid we hurt someone's feelings in the name of safety.

Brother I agree. Have you seen or heard the Civi Liberties groups complaining about the new "back-scatter" (sp?) X-Ray machines?
They work work very well, even great, to the point of seeing everything that a person has on them.
The "problem"? They act like X-Ray eyes. The viewer can see certain parts of a persons body. The viewer is in a remote location, not near the person.
http://www.rapiscansystems.com/sec1000.html

http://www.tsa.gov/research/privacy/backscatter.shtm

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/12/2/12848/7029

[RACooper]

Originally Posted by Texas Beta

I wonder if Arab owned airliners beefed up security, besides companies which fly to western countries. Is there a need? Maybe theres some crazy white person out there, but I doubt it.

The "Arab" airlines have had pretty tight security for a while - my uncle does a lot of business overseas for IBM and said he found their (specifically Emirates, Saudi Arabian Airlines) pre-flight screening security was pretty much on-par with North America, except of course during alerts and in certain locales (such as Tehran). In flight he said things were another story - often an armed guard or two sitting in the back, and a fighter escort through some airspace (Arabian pennisula and Iran).

[ASUADPi]

Security- I personally think security sucks at the airports. TSA is not consistent at every airport and it should be. It is quite sad that it is not.


My mom and I were flying home from Miami back in June. I was flying Frontier and she was flying Southwest. We were in different terminals but there at the same time. She called me to say that she was concerned about getting onto her plane. She said that while she was in line for security 3 people (2 males and a female) of Middle Eastern descent were causing a rukus. One of the men was showing security his ticket and the ticket and the ID didn't match. The other man and the female were arguing back and forth with TSA regarding it. My mom saw and heard the entire exchange. Well of course she gets concerned because someone is trying to get into the terminal with a ticket that isn't in their name (or an idea not in their name, or both). The three people are pulled from security and she doesn't think much of it, until about twenty minutes before boarding when the female and the
2nd male come running to the gate and want to make the flight to Phoenix. She was freaking out (inside) because they had caused a commotion at security and they had no luggage with them (I guess she had overheard them say they didn't check luggage). This concerned her (I think because didn't some of the hijackers not take any luggage on board?). I told her if she didn't feel safe to go over to the Southwest counter, explained what she witnessed and ask to be switched to a different flight. It was very easy, she did it and they accomodated her. I think they even said that 1) a marshall was on the plane or 2) they (the flight attendents) would "keep an eye out" for the people that my mom was concerned about), I don't quite remember.

So with my mini hijack being said, I agree that the passengers had a right to be afraid, I'm just not sure US Airways handeled the situation appropriately. But I'm sure with the media attention it created (especially since it was negative) they will probably be rethinking thier policy's. (Not that I'm sure how it could have been handeled).

As much as people don't be to be racist (and I don't think we all mean to be), unfortunately since 9-11, the American public is very weary of Muslims. And it's gonna take time. Even though it's been over five years (which in another one of my posts, is no excuse for mail still being sent to WTC ), but emotionally I think people are still trying to deal with it.

To this day I still get fearful of flying, especially when I'm taking long non stop flights (hence with lots of fuel in the plane). But as someone said earlier, when it's your time, it's your time. Plus, I'd be one of those who fought back. I'd much rather take them down then them taking down the plane and killing hundreds or thousands. Does that make sense?

Anyways, sorry this is really long.

Agree or disagree with me totally fine

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by jubilance1922

Perhaps you should read the rest of the thread and get the whole story before you simply pass judgement on people.

I don't pass judgement on people, but I'm not getting on a plane with the same people that support Saddam, and hate my country. You can, but I'm not.

[PrettyBoy]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

Security- I personally think security sucks at the airports. TSA is not consistent at every airport and it should be. It is quite sad that it is not.


My mom and I were flying home from Miami back in June. I was flying Frontier and she was flying Southwest. We were in different terminals but there at the same time. She called me to say that she was concerned about getting onto her plane. She said that while she was in line for security 3 people (2 males and a female) of Middle Eastern descent were causing a rukus. One of the men was showing security his ticket and the ticket and the ID didn't match. The other man and the female were arguing back and forth with TSA regarding it. My mom saw and heard the entire exchange. Well of course she gets concerned because someone is trying to get into the terminal with a ticket that isn't in their name (or an idea not in their name, or both). The three people are pulled from security and she doesn't think much of it, until about twenty minutes before boarding when the female and the
2nd male come running to the gate and want to make the flight to Phoenix. She was freaking out (inside) because they had caused a commotion at security and they had no luggage with them (I guess she had overheard them say they didn't check luggage). This concerned her (I think because didn't some of the hijackers not take any luggage on board?). I told her if she didn't feel safe to go over to the Southwest counter, explained what she witnessed and ask to be switched to a different flight. It was very easy, she did it and they accomodated her. I think they even said that 1) a marshall was on the plane or 2) they (the flight attendents) would "keep an eye out" for the people that my mom was concerned about), I don't quite remember.

So with my mini hijack being said, I agree that the passengers had a right to be afraid, I'm just not sure US Airways handeled the situation appropriately. But I'm sure with the media attention it created (especially since it was negative) they will probably be rethinking thier policy's. (Not that I'm sure how it could have been handeled).

As much as people don't be to be racist (and I don't think we all mean to be), unfortunately since 9-11, the American public is very weary of Muslims. And it's gonna take time. Even though it's been over five years (which in another one of my posts, is no excuse for mail still being sent to WTC ), but emotionally I think people are still trying to deal with it.

To this day I still get fearful of flying, especially when I'm taking long non stop flights (hence with lots of fuel in the plane). But as someone said earlier, when it's your time, it's your time. Plus, I'd be one of those who fought back. I'd much rather take them down then them taking down the plane and killing hundreds or thousands. Does that make sense?

Anyways, sorry this is really long.

Agree or disagree with me totally fine

See, this is why I only fly if it's an emergency. I'm going to Minnesota (my home town) for Christimas, and I will be driving. 13 hours 722 miles but it's worth it.

[_Opi_]

Originally Posted by ASUADPi

As much as people don't be to be racist (and I don't think we all mean to be), unfortunately since 9-11, the American public is very weary of Muslims.

This is true. And it makes me really sad.