Getting a Bid from Someone You Didn't Pref

[aggieAXO]

Originally Posted by Alphagamuga

Well, it seems to me that the small houses are probably better off having full houses for the parties than having empty ones. In my mind, they aren't more likely to make quota with fewer girls at each party; they'd be even less likely to make it. So, it may not be a big hardship for them to have girls who aren't crazy about being there at a few parties.

From the PNM's perspective, you might have to go to a few houses you aren't interested in, but how big a deal is that really? You meet some girls; you dazzle them with your charm; they know your future chapter got a great girl on bid day. At least, that's how it goes at UGA, in my opinion.

Yes, occasionally smaller chapters do believe that some girls who aren't really interested want to join them because the PNMs are such awesome guests and treat each rusher like she is the most interesting and charming person on the planet. But it's usually pretty clear by prefs who you will really see on bid day.

If a PNM's only option in declining is to regret with interest, I can see that you couldn't use it to determine if people were interested. If I'm remembering this correctly, back when I was in school and we were huddled around checking our party lists by firelight in the cave, you could straight up decline/regret, decline with interest, or accept.

When I asked about re-invites, I had in mind a system that allowed a PNM to make a distinction between a group she liked okay but wasn't in her top group for second round and a group she never wanted to see again.

With groups making their big releases maybe between different rounds, I can see that a girl who got invited back almost every place after first, but cut hard after second, might not mind having a full party schedule for third. But I can see from the very detailed answer why that doesn't work out in the long term. (Thanks again, TXgirl!)

Again, I did not go to these houses after the second day because I had full parties but it did not matter-their name showed up every morning on the list regardless.

ETA: I was NEVER rude to the girls in these chapters. One of my best friends was in one of the smaller chapters and I had been over to house many times the previous year (I rushed as a junior.) I knew all the struggles her chapter had been through and I knew that it was not for me. She was a rho chi the year I rushed and every morning she would greet me at the MSC where we got our lists and every morning she watched as I cut her chapter which I know had to make her sad-that is why it was annoying.

[UGAalum94]

That makes sense. I was thinking of campuses that gave PNMs the choice between regret and regret with interest.

You obviously weren't interested. I guess at your campus there's no way for the groups to really tell.

[carnation]

-wondering if anybody else had heard of this happening over the last 2 years-

[AlwaysSAI]

So, this hasn't happened in my chapter because obviously, I'm not NPC, but it kind of happened to my sister. She attended Philanthropy day at AXO and AGD. She shows up at Pref to find that she has been invited to AGD and DZ (who had dropped her the day before). I asked her if she knew if DZ gave her a bid--of course she doesn't know, but she said she didn't even list them on her bid card.

And, I don't know if this all happened in the same year, but there were three girls in her chapter who were not bidded by the chapter, but showed up at bid day. They found out later that their LC bidded them because she wanted them to have the numbers (they were below quota at the time). One of them was a bump on a log for six years (yes, it took her that long to graduate). One went on to hold an EC position and the other has had her badge yanked by their IHQ.

[33girl]

Honestly, who the eff are the consultants who think that does anyone a favor - the sorority or the PNM??

I want to say "if you think she's such a prize, take her back to YOUR chapter."

[carnation]

bumping for 2010, wondering if this is still happening--

[Alumiyum]

Originally Posted by aggieAXO

Again, I did not go to these houses after the second day because I had full parties but it did not matter-their name showed up every morning on the list regardless.

ETA: I was NEVER rude to the girls in these chapters. One of my best friends was in one of the smaller chapters and I had been over to house many times the previous year (I rushed as a junior.) I knew all the struggles her chapter had been through and I knew that it was not for me. She was a rho chi the year I rushed and every morning she would greet me at the MSC where we got our lists and every morning she watched as I cut her chapter which I know had to make her sad-that is why it was annoying.

This happened to me as a PNM as well. Exact same situation except that I wasn't friends with the RC whose chapter I was cutting, though I did know it was her chapter. It was uncomfortable every time.