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11-15-2006, 10:54 PM
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I just don't like him because he's too liberal.
Side Notes: McCain is filing paper work tommorow, Tommy Thompson announced his filing as well (this surprised me), I wouldn't look for the other co frontrunner, Mitt Romney, to file until after the new year, but I could be wrong.
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11-16-2006, 12:17 PM
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I think all that aside, Giuliani probably will win New York.
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I don't think so. Most liberal NYC area voters I know would not vote for him - and they are the ones who usually determine the way the state goes despite all the red voters upstate. I do think it would matter who he was running against, though.
I read an editorial the other day about how Bloomberg no longer says he'd never run for higher office and the writer was hoping he'd run for President. I'm sure it won't happen and he'd never win, but I think he'd actully have more of a chance to win NY than Giuliani...though maybe that's just b/c I like him more. 
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11-16-2006, 12:55 PM
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Have there been any mayors of NYC that anyone liked?
Seems to me to be one of the more thankless jobs in the world.
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11-16-2006, 12:59 PM
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I remember reading an article in New York magazine a couple of years back that said that hating the mayor is a New York institution.
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11-16-2006, 01:43 PM
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I just don't like him because he's too liberal.
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Atilla the Hun for President.
Or Mayor.
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11-16-2006, 01:58 PM
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A lot of people like Giuliani. When he took over, NYC was a mess. He cleaned up the streets, put people to work through his welfare-to-work initiative, clamped down on the mob, and did a heck of a job during 9-11. However, his views on illegal immigration could really hurt him.
A very beloved NYC mayor was Fiorello LaGuardia. He led the city through some of the worst days of the depression and the hardships of WWII. My grandmother used to tell me stories on how he would read the Sunday Comics on the radio during a nationwide newspaper strike so the kids wouldn't miss their favorite episodes.
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11-16-2006, 02:22 PM
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A very beloved NYC mayor was Fiorello LaGuardia.
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And a brother in Phi Mu Alpha. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
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11-18-2006, 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by shinerbock
I just don't like him because he's too liberal.
Side Notes: McCain is filing paper work tommorow, Tommy Thompson announced his filing as well (this surprised me), I wouldn't look for the other co frontrunner, Mitt Romney, to file until after the new year, but I could be wrong.
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I just saw that Thompson announced - he'd been saying that he wouldn't run because he wanted to run against Feingold for Senate. I'm very surprised by it and not a huge fan - he did some good things as governor but he also did some pretty crappy things and left us with an asshat of a Lt. Gov. in McCallum.
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11-18-2006, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by blueangel
A lot of people like Giuliani. When he took over, NYC was a mess. He cleaned up the streets, put people to work through his welfare-to-work initiative, clamped down on the mob, and did a heck of a job during 9-11. However, his views on illegal immigration could really hurt him.
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If you've never read "Freakonomics" you should check out their 'Broken Window Theory' - ol' Rudy is the poster boy for it.
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11-19-2006, 09:06 AM
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A lot of people like Giuliani. When he took over, NYC was a mess. He cleaned up the streets, put people to work through his welfare-to-work initiative, clamped down on the mob, and did a heck of a job during 9-11. However, his views on illegal immigration could really hurt him.
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I agree with you here. He did do those things. But otherwise, he sucked monkey butt. I couldn't stand him, and I'm glad to see people agree with me in this thread.
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11-19-2006, 12:53 PM
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I agree with you here. He did do those things. But otherwise, he sucked monkey butt. I couldn't stand him, and I'm glad to see people agree with me in this thread.
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What didn't you like about his policies? Can you be specific?
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11-19-2006, 12:54 PM
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If you've never read "Freakonomics" you should check out their 'Broken Window Theory' - ol' Rudy is the poster boy for it.
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I haven't read it. Would you care to elaborate?
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11-19-2006, 01:17 PM
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I haven't read it. Would you care to elaborate?
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You should read it. It's an excellent book. A quick Google search will briefly explain more. There's also a recent Law Review article from University of Chicago that further discusses it.
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11-19-2006, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by PiKA2001
the problem with him is that he has a dirty past, which will bite him in the ass if the smear campaigns roll out.
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I was on a homeland security trade mission this past summer to Israel. With us was a former staffer for Giuliani. I asked him if Giuliani might make a presidential run in 08. In his words most likely not because there are "too many skeletons". He did not elaborate further.
On another note, I like it went Rudy is the guest host on SNL. He's actually a pretty funny guy.
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11-19-2006, 04:12 PM
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While I think that being the mayor of New York is as trying and difficult of a job as being governor of most (maybe all) states, the jump from a mayorality to the presidency is a pretty long one.
Recently, that road has led through state capitol buildings. I don't know if that's good or bad.
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