Racial Conflict

[blackngoldengrl]

No I was not thinking explicitly about the member that joined GFB, but rather that there had to be a big deal about it. If it was such a regular phenomenon, why the "bruhaha?" As far as I know, there have been a limited number of black women to join in the NPC sororities there.

Is anyone on here from Alabama that could speak on this? Am I off base?

[FSUZeta]

no one said that blacks joining npc or ifc groups in the south was a regular thing. someone implied that southern sororities and fraternities do not have black members and i was trying to let them see that that is not true.

before we can determine if blacks joining npc and ifc groups is common or rare, we would have to know how many blacks participated in npc or ifc recruitment and of those people, how many were extended a bid.

to take it further, we would need to know the reason that those who were not extended a bid, did not receive one. did they have a gpa that was at or above the gpa requirement of panhellenic, but had a gpa that did not meet the sorority's required gpa? i don't know why , but it seems that often the required gpa to participate in recruitment is lower than many of the sororities required gpa.

did they decide that they did not have the time to devote to the pledgeship?

was the cost prohibitive?

were they offered a bid, but decided that that chapter was not for them?

if they were not offered a bid, were they on the bid list, but that chapter reached quota before they got to that person?

if they were dropped by the chapter, was if because they were black, or was it because the member rushing the pnm did not mesh well with the pnm?

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by FSUZeta

before we can determine if blacks joining npc and ifc groups is common or rare

I estimate that blacks joining NPC and IFC organizations is not that common in the grand scheme of things but it is more common than whites joining NPHC organizations.

With Phi Beta Sigma and Zeta Phi Beta comprising the largest percentage of those. ()

[blackngoldengrl]

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[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by blackngoldengrl

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[shinerbock]

Alphagam, I sincerely hope you weren't trying to imply that I am a racist.

Also, congrats on bringing up Bush, I'm sure its tough for you bleeding heart MTV told me to liberals to go 5 minutes without bringing him into a conversation. The reason Bush got elected President is because most people voted for him. Twice. (Timeout here for the dems to make some smartass-yet-banal-stolen-from-Bill-Maher-comment). As much as people would like to believe otherwise, people who benefit from who they know are generally pretty well qualified. Try logic. Lets see, if they're surrounded by bright and wealthy people who are well educated, theres a strong chance they'll benefit from the same circumstances. Its not like the people helped out by this are street corner junkies who just happen to know Karl Rove. The fact is, if you're intelligent, well off, and not socially inept, you're more than likely going to meet people along the way who can help you out.

Originally Posted by blackngoldengrl

No I was not thinking explicitly about the member that joined GFB, but rather that there had to be a big deal about it. If it was such a regular phenomenon, why the "bruhaha?" As far as I know, there have been a limited number of black women to join in the NPC sororities there.

Is anyone on here from Alabama that could speak on this? Am I off base?

kk_gphib_01 is an alumna of the Alabama Gamma Phi chapter you spoke of and was a collegian when her chapter became the first NPC on campus to integrate in 2003.

[bamabelle99]

Originally Posted by blackngoldengrl

No I was not thinking explicitly about the member that joined GFB, but rather that there had to be a big deal about it. If it was such a regular phenomenon, why the "bruhaha?" As far as I know, there have been a limited number of black women to join in the NPC sororities there.

Is anyone on here from Alabama that could speak on this? Am I off base?

There have been a limited number of black women to join in the NPC sororities at Alabama because there are a limited number of black women that choose to register to rush. I only saw one black woman go through rush the four years I was there.