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Old 11-14-2006, 12:29 AM
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Would an all-male church group suffice?

Also, which was first BYX (brothers under christ) and KYX (Keepers Under Christ). Keepers doesn't make all that much sense not gonna lie.
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:37 AM
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KYX (Keepers Under Christ). Keepers doesn't make all that much sense not gonna lie.

But Keeping Under Christ (KYX) makes complete sense.
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:52 AM
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not really. God, why can't it just be Keeping Under Christ, an all male association?
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:54 AM
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not really. God, why can't it just be Keeping Under Christ, an all male association?
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:07 AM
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Not to fuel the flames, but at least at UCF and UF (and probably at most other public universities) the only way to have a single gender student organization is to be recognized as a fraternity or sorority. All other student groups must be co-ed.

Oh, now I get what he's saying. He's wondering why they aren't a group instead of a fraternity. I thought he was saying "Keeping Under Christ" didn't make sense.

Possible answer in addition to the one you provided: Because they want to be a fraternity. Probably in response to the culture of GLOs that they have witnessed so they want an alternative for people who live a certain lifestyle. This is a Christian fraternity whereas some fraternities are only founded on some Christian principles.
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:16 AM
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Not to fuel the flames, but at least at UCF and UF (and probably at most other public universities) the only way to have a single gender student organization is to be recognized as a fraternity or sorority. All other student groups must be co-ed.
That's generally the case at all schools, whether public or private, if the organization wants school recognition. Title IX, as implemented and enforced by the Department of Education, basically forbids any school that receives federal funds from granting official recognition to single-sex organizations. There is a specific exemption for social fraternities and sororities.

Besides, if they want a fraternity, they should be able to start a fraternity.

That said, Keeping Under Christ doesn't make much sense to me either -- not that it needs to and not that my opinion matters or should matter. I mean, I understand what it means (I think), but it just seems like an odd phrase. I figured it's just one of those phrases that would be familiar to people in some but not all traditions of Christianity.

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Old 11-14-2006, 11:27 AM
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That said, Keeping Under Christ doesn't make much sense to me either -- not that it needs to and not that my opinion matters or should matter. I mean, I understand what it means (I think), but it just seems like an odd phrase. I figured it's just one of those phrases that would be familiar to people in some but not all traditions of Christianity.

More power to them!
To put it how KYX put it: "we are first and foremost bound by the love of Jesus Christ, God's son, our Savior."


Out of curiosity:
What Christians (or nonChristians, for that matter who can understand it logically if not religiously) won't understand being kept and to remain under Christ? No matter what the denomination of Christianity, don't we all profess to be kept and to remain under Christ? A lot of Christians use this as a profession of faith--to be kept under His blood and to keep under Jesus in mind, body, and spirit.
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Old 11-14-2006, 11:56 AM
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I think it's the phrasing. I've never heard that type of phrasing ever. I can understand being "kept" under Christ (although I would never phrase it that way) but saying "keeping under Christ" to me implies that you are the active party and not Christ. It's not Christ keeping you.. it's you maintaining it yourself.

*shrug*

I don't disagree with the sentiment, but it took your comment to explain it.
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:15 PM
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but saying "keeping under Christ" to me implies that you are the active party and not Christ. It's not Christ keeping you.. it's you maintaining it yourself.
Christians are the active party in making sure we keep under Christ. Christ is the active party in keeping and sheltering us.

Being a devout person of any faith takes a sense of agency and activity on the part of the believers. It is a constant test and testament of faith.
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Old 11-14-2006, 12:58 AM
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Would an all-male church group suffice?

Also, which was first BYX (brothers under christ) and KYX (Keepers Under Christ). Keepers doesn't make all that much sense not gonna lie.

I think BYX was founded here at Texas in the mid 80s
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:40 AM
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BYX was founded in 1985 at UT - Austin. They have twenty chapters in six states.

Sigma Phi Lambda was founded in 1988 at UT - Austin (Sorority). They have 22 chapters in six states I believe.

KYX was founded in 1993 at Texas Tech and we have 10 chapters and one colony in five states.
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Old 11-14-2006, 01:43 AM
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Also, we were founded by two men who were Phi Gamma Deltas and two guys who were involved in Christian Leadership at Texas Tech. They wanted to make a fraternity that was similar to a Traditional Greek IFC Fraternity that focused as a Discipleship for Christian Men similar to a Church Group.

The way we get it told is that the Fraternal bonds are strong as are bonds between Christians therefore the bond is strongest for us if we combine the two.
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Old 11-14-2006, 03:15 AM
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I think BYX was founded here at Texas in the mid 80
Top-tier old row then, eh?
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