JHU Sigma Chi "Halloween in the Hood Party"

AlexMack · #1 11-02-2006, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tear-Drop (TEP)

I believe that there are times that fraternities and sororities are sometimes oblivious to the fact that people this day and age are sensitive to certian things.

As a hispanic male, I would be offended that a party like that would be going on. But then agian, people at times believe things like that are funny, or have no affect on surround individuals.

One has to be consious of the fact that:

Even if it is a themed party, when is it taking it too far? And will there be consequences?

The JHU brother's learned the hard way, and it should have never gotten to that point. With respect for the fratenity, I know for a fact that this does not represent the National's POV.

I am not bashing the fraternity at all, but I am saying that all greek organizations should be a little bit more socially concious...

Well considering that the BSU marched over there with an intent to find a racist slant to the party and never even set foot inside the party, I'd say perhaps people need to be less sensitive instead. Someone somewhere is going to be offended no matter what. There is no pleasing all people all the time. It's retarded. Soon someone will say that a Las Vegas themed recruitment party is offensive because gambling is against christianity and oh god think of the children.

PhrozenGod01 · #2 11-02-2006, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532

Well considering that the BSU marched over there with an intent to find a racist slant to the party and never even set foot inside the party, I'd say perhaps people need to be less sensitive instead. Someone somewhere is going to be offended no matter what. There is no pleasing all people all the time. It's retarded. Soon someone will say that a Las Vegas themed recruitment party is offensive because gambling is against christianity and oh god think of the children.

I don't know what JHU's greek system is like, but would male BSU members even be let inside? At my school and many I have visited, most fraternity parties have archaic lists. Even when someone is on the list, entry might be denied without a member even checking it(as they see other randoms walk in without being asked about their list status). It would be an extra hard slap to the face to hear about an "urban" themed party and then not get let in because of some sort of risk management issue(the members' fear that I'm a real thug or something... and the lack of women with me).

Without getting too far into that realm(the party could have been open for all I know), it can be safe to say that their BSU acted rationally and with a level of diplomacy that shines brighter than the ignorance of a few individuals. The BSU was just as sensitive in the aftermath, as Sigma Chi was when planning the party.

shinerbock · #3 11-02-2006, 07:00 PM

Unless the BSU just issued a statement or something, I really fail to see what their place is in this. If the BSU had a step show, and a fight broke out, could SAE roll in there and investigate? They're just a student org, not some sort of regulating body.

AlexMack · #4 11-02-2006, 09:03 PM

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Unless the BSU just issued a statement or something, I really fail to see what their place is in this. If the BSU had a step show, and a fight broke out, could SAE roll in there and investigate? They're just a student org, not some sort of regulating body.

Exactly. The racist invite was one thing, and the brother responsible for it has been disciplined accordingly. But the BSU took it upon themselves to go find something to cry foul over, and like all people looking for something in particular, they found it. I think it's kind of pathetic to give this issue national attention when it could have been solved discreetly. But then how would we all know that the Sigma Chis at JHU are racist idiots otherwise?

macallan25 · #5 11-02-2006, 11:12 PM

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But then how would we all know that the Sigma Chis at JHU are racist idiots otherwise?

idiot.

AlexMack · #6 11-03-2006, 01:15 AM

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idiot.

Are you insulting my sarcasm?

exlurker · #7 11-03-2006, 02:22 PM

Editorial (long) from the Johns Hopkins student paper:

http://www.jhunewsletter.com/media/s...newsletter.com

DSTCHAOS · #8 11-05-2006, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

Unless the BSU just issued a statement or something, I really fail to see what their place is in this. If the BSU had a step show, and a fight broke out, could SAE roll in there and investigate? They're just a student org, not some sort of regulating body.

They are more than just a "student org." They are a student and administration-created organization to represent some of the goals and interests of the black student body.

DSTCHAOS · #9 11-05-2006, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by centaur532

Well considering that the BSU marched over there with an intent to find a racist slant to the party and never even set foot inside the party

Is that what they did? Now you're doing what you claim they are doing--speaking/acting based on only part of the story. The "racist slant" was supposedly in the advertisement for it. So, there was no need for them to open their minds to the idea that the party advertisement would be trumped by the turnout.

AlexMack · #10 11-05-2006, 08:03 PM

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Is that what they did? Now you're doing what you claim they are doing--speaking/acting based on only part of the story. The "racist slant" was supposedly in the advertisement for it. So, there was no need for them to open their minds to the idea that the party advertisement would be trumped by the turnout.

Well they didn't walk inside the house and decided an obvious pirate skeleton (from Pirates of the Caribbean, no less. It's an exact replica of the one from the film) was a reenactment of a lynching. So I'd say yes, there is need to open your mind up and assess the entire situation.
By the way, couldn't you have just copied and pasted all the quotes you're responding to in one big post?
I didn't just read part of the story. I read the news story, then I read the response given by one of the founders of that chapter. I expressed my opinion based upon my knowledge, which, ultimately is what we are all doing, yourself included.

DSTCHAOS · #11 11-06-2006, 12:21 AM

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Well they didn't walk inside the house and decided an obvious pirate skeleton (from Pirates of the Caribbean, no less. It's an exact replica of the one from the film) was a reenactment of a lynching.

That much is obvious but what preceeded that, in your other post, isn't.

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By the way, couldn't you have just copied and pasted all the quotes you're responding to in one big post?

Only if clicking "quote" as I read along wasn't quicker.

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Originally Posted by centaur532

I didn't just read part of the story. I read the news story, then I read the response given by one of the founders of that chapter. I expressed my opinion based upon my knowledge, which, ultimately is what we are all doing, yourself included.

And therefore you assumed that the BSU went looking for something, as if their imagination told them there would be something to look for in the first place.