Barak Obama...could he be the next President of the US?

DSTCHAOS · #1 10-27-2006, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LionOfJudah

Well to assume that because the Democratic Party "pacifies" the AfAm vote doesn't make the other choice any better. The Republican Party ignores the AfAM vote......so the question then becomes "would you rather be pacified or ignored?" Hmmm interesting....I was raised by 2 Republican parents who were Republican when Republican wasn't cool in the AfAm community. I was also raised in a very political and highly educated household. So I understand the ideals of pacification and know it when I see it....(the Republican Party in the AfAm church, prime example of pacifying a race). They don't care about AfAms, they just have common enemies...those who are perceived as "immoral".

Now as for the 2 books I never said those books made him a candidate for President nor did I say that I felt like I knew him. I said it gave me the impression that he was "different".

On to your Oprah comment. I would also like to address the idea of Oprah being President. That idea is neither far fetched nor unprecedented. You have an actor turned President in Ronald Reagan, and actor/body builder born in another country as Governor of a State....so why not Oprah? Not saying I would vote for her but let's not pose the question as if it is impossible or unconscionable.

Option C: Neither.

Being pacified is being patronized. It's almost worse than being ignored.
When someone is patronizing you they are say "yeah...yeah...you aren't going away so we'll throw you a bone to shut you up." I'd rather someone be upfront and honest about not thinking certain concerns are important so I can know where they stand and vote accordingly.

Black people don't need to align to any political party. Democrat doesn't hold much more tradition or relevance to Blacks than Republican does. Vote based on platform. This way parties will have to work for votes without being able to count on getting a majority of Black voters.

ladygreek · #2 10-27-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DSTCHAOS

Option C: Neither.

Being pacified is being patronized. It's almost worse than being ignored.
When someone is patronizing you they are say "yeah...yeah...you aren't going away so we'll throw you a bone to shut you up." I'd rather someone be upfront and honest about not thinking certain concerns are important so I can know where they stand and vote accordingly.

Black people don't need to align to any political party. Democrat doesn't hold much more tradition or relevance to Blacks than Republican does. Vote based on platform. This way parties will have to work for votes without being able to count on getting a majority of Black voters.

Hear, hear. My grandparents were Dems, my parents were Eisenhower Repubs (the party of Lincoln.) Right now neither "party" is doing right by us. Vote the platform! I will definitely be split voting this election.

Oh and my advice to Barack..wait a while longer. Show what you can do and what influence you really have in your current position. Don't believe the hype--it's a set up!

eyenomifate · #3 10-28-2006, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek

Hear, hear. My grandparents were Dems, my parents were Eisenhower Repubs (the party of Lincoln.) Right now neither "party" is doing right by us. Vote the platform! I will definitely be split voting this election.

Oh and my advice to Barack..wait a while longer. Show what you can do and what influence you really have in your current position. Don't believe the hype--it's a set up!

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DSTCHAOS · #4 10-28-2006, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek

Oh and my advice to Barack..wait a while longer. Show what you can do and what influence you really have in your current position. Don't believe the hype--it's a set up!

Regardless of who fights the good fight, the next President will be a Protestant, white man.

LionOfJudah · #5 12-12-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek

Hear, hear. My grandparents were Dems, my parents were Eisenhower Repubs (the party of Lincoln.) Right now neither "party" is doing right by us. Vote the platform! I will definitely be split voting this election.

Oh and my advice to Barack..wait a while longer. Show what you can do and what influence you really have in your current position. Don't believe the hype--it's a set up!

History has shown that the longer a person waits in the Senate the less likely they are to become President. He should strike while the iron is hot. This climate and opportunity will not present itself again. For him or any other like him for quite a while.

I ask the question again....Barak Omaba....could he be the next President of the US?

He has closed a gap on Sen. Clinton in record time and shows no signs of slowing....

LoJ

DSTCHAOS · #6 12-12-2006, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LionOfJudah

I ask the question again....Barak Omaba....could he be the next President of the US?

No and we pretty much answered your question already.

ladygreek · #7 12-12-2006, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LionOfJudah

History has shown that the longer a person waits in the Senate the less likely they are to become President. He should strike while the iron is hot. This climate and opportunity will not present itself again. For him or any other like him for quite a while.

I ask the question again....Barak Omaba....could he be the next President of the US?

He has closed a gap on Sen. Clinton in record time and shows no signs of slowing....

LoJ

IMO, both Obama and Clinton are unelectable right now. So if they are who the Dems are hanging their hats on then watch a moderate Repub become the next president.

shinerbock · #8 12-12-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek

IMO, both Obama and Clinton are unelectable right now. So if they are who the Dems are hanging their hats on then watch a moderate Repub become the next president.

You're a smart lady.

Honeykiss1974 · #9 03-01-2007, 11:55 AM

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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- In recent months, ABC News-Washington Post polls showed Sen. Hillary Clinton running 40 points higher than Sen. Barack Obama among blacks voters asked to name their preference in the Democratic primary.

But in Wednesday editions, the Washington Post reported a poll that has Obama leading Clinton by 11 points among black voters -- 44 percent to 33 percent. Obama is the Senate's only black member and has been campaigning across the country for the last couple of months. Clinton is his chief rival for the 2008 presidential nomination

That change represents a stunning 24-point swing, but does it mean the black community has embraced the Illinois Democrat as its candidate?

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shinerbock · #10 03-01-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by blackbird

Hillary Clinton "will" win the democratic nomination. Obama and Edwards will be neck and neck. I think Obama may more likely be at the top of Hillary's list of VP running mates.

For the republican nomination Rudy Guliani is to liberal (pro-choice, increased gun regulation, pro-civil unions) to win the republican nomination. Mitt Romney has no name recognition. I believe McCain will win the republican nomination.

In 2008, it will be Hillary Clinton vs. John McCain.

McCain is struggling. He may ramp it up as questions about Rudy arise. Mitt Romney doesn't have much name recognition. He's polling at about 10% to Rudy in the mid 30's, but there is a year to go before primaries start. By this summer I fully expect Romney to be neck and neck with the other 2. He's the best speaker, has a lot of party support, and can bring in the cash.

Hillary likely will win the nomination. Edwards would be a better choice if someone really got a hold of him and taught him how to win elections. Obama may end up on the ticket, but I don't think it matters. Without a major gaff by whoever the GOP candidate is, Hillary won't win.

AlphaFrog · #11 03-01-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek

IMO, both Obama and Clinton are unelectable right now. So if they are who the Dems are hanging their hats on then watch a moderate Repub become the next president.

In other words, Rudy. (I don't think McCain is Moderate enough to win)

Shortfuse · #12 04-09-2007, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ladygreek

IMO, both Obama and Clinton are unelectable right now. So if they are who the Dems are hanging their hats on then watch a moderate Repub become the next president.

WRONG. Nobody is going to hang their hat on McClain (too wishy washy and he's starting to sound ALOT like Bush). Guilani isn't going to win and there isn't a Republican that America trust. The Iraq War is going to leave a nasty taste in our mouths for a long time.

If anything folks will go with John Edwards. But, he's a LONG shot at the moment.