Three Sororities Selected to Present at Northwestern

[dvs-dz]

The Delta Zeta chapter at Northwestern is our Alpha Alpha chapter - just one away from being a single letter chapter. So it too is one of our oldest chapters.

[LPIDelta]

While it is possible that the comment was taken out of context, I don't wonder if the ZTA president's comment was a savvy strategy. By stating for the paper that her org is strongest, now everyone reading that article may assume its truth and going into presentations people may have preconvceived notions about ZTA being strong.

Anyway...best of luck to the three groups.

[AXiDTrish]

My thoughts exactly! Having sat in strategy meetings all week, when I read that my first thought was the collegiate audience who reads that paper...and all those deciding votes. Savvy strategic move.

Regardless, Northwestern would be an incredible addition for any of our organizations. Good luck to all!!!!

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by pinkyphimu

Wow that is very interesting! Thank you for sharing that info. I wonder if there were other schools that had this much representation by 1900?

Edited:
Schools with NPCs before 1900 - they may not be 100% accurate. I'm sure I have missed some.
Oldest chapter and year of charter is highlighted in blue
Northwestern (8) AP 1881, AXO, GPB, DG, DDD, KAT, KKG, PBP
Michigan (8) AP, AXO, GPB, DG, DDD, KAT 1879, KKG, PBP
Wisconsin (7) AP, GPB, DG, DDD, KAT, KKG 1875, PBP
Syracuse (6) AP 1872, GPB, DDD, KAT, KKG, PBP
Minnesota (6) AP, DG, DDD, KAT, KKG 1880, PBP
Goucher (6) AP 1891, GPB, DG 1891, DDD 1891, KAT, PBP (Greek Life abolished)
Nebraska (5) DG, DDD, KAT, KKG 1884, PBP
Boston U. (5) AP, GPB, DDD, KKG 1882, PBP (Greek Life abolished, then re-instated)
Stanford (5) AP, DG 1886, KAT, KKG, PBP (Greek Life abolished, then re-instated)
The Ohio State (4) DDD, KAT, KKG 1888, PBP
Cornell (4) AP, DG, KAT 1881, KKG
DePauw(4) AP, AXO, KAT 1870, KKG
Indiana (4) DG, KAT, KKG, PBP
Illinois (4) AXO, KAT 1870, KKG, PBP
Simpson (4) DDD, KAT, KKG, PBP 1874
Vermont (3) DDD, KAT 1881, PBP
Longwood (3) ZTA, KD 1897, SSS
Allegheny (PA) (3) AXO, KAT 1876, KKG
Swarthmore (3) KAT 1891, KKG, PBP (Greek Life abolished)
Barnard (3) AOII, KAT, KKG 1891 (Greek Life abolished)
St. Lawrence (NY) (3) DG, DDD, KKG 1881
Albion (MI) (3) AXO, DG 1883, KAT
Kansas (3) KAT, KKG, PBP 1873
Butler (3) KAT 1874, KKG, PBP
Franklin (IN) (3) DG 1878, KKG, PBP
Knox (3) AZD, DDD, PBP 1884
Iowa (3) DG, KKG 1882, PBP 1882
Wesleyan (CT) (3) DDD, KAT 1883, PBP (No Greek Life at present)
Cal-Berkeley (3) GPB, KAT, KKG 1880
Southern California (3) AXO, DG 1887, KAT 1887
Bucknell (2) AXO, PBP 1895
Wooster (2) KAT 1875, KKG (No Greek LIfe at present)
Ohio (2) KAT 1876, PBP
Ohio Wesleyan (2) KAT, KKG 1880
Akron (2) DG, KKG 1877
Cincinnati (2) DDD, KKG 1885
Missouri (2) KKG 1875, PBP
Adrian (MI) (2) DDD, KKG 1882
Hillsdale (MI) (2) KKG 1881, PBP
Sophie Newcomb/Tulane (2) AOII, PBP 1891
Hanover (2) DG 1881, KAT
Illinois Wesleyan (2) KAT 1875, KKG
Monmouth (IL) (2) KKG, PBP 1867 (Greek Life abolished, then re-instated)
Iowa State (2) DDD, PBP 1877
Wesleyan (GA) (2) ADII 1851, PM (Greek Life abolished)
Colorado (2) DG, PBP 1884
Denver (2) GPB, PBP 1885

Lots with 1

[AGDee]

Our chapter at Northwestern was our Lambda chapter. I suppose if our sister, Judy Baar Topinka, wins the election for Governor in Illinois, we could argue that we are the most powerful group in Illinois

[BadSquirrelBeta]

Originally Posted by AGDee

Our chapter at Northwestern was our Lambda chapter. I suppose if our sister, Judy Baar Topinka, wins the election for Governor in Illinois, we could argue that we are the most powerful group in Illinois

Squirrel power! She should run on the Squirrel Party ticket...

The Governor of my state, Washington, is an NPC alum...but I can't recall if she is a KD, SK or DZ...anyhoo, hopefully we'll chalk up another GLO lady Governor soon!

[Jill1228]

Christine Gregoire is a Kappa Delta

Originally Posted by BadSquirrelBeta

Squirrel power! She should run on the Squirrel Party ticket...

The Governor of my state, Washington, is an NPC alum...but I can't recall if she is a KD, SK or DZ...anyhoo, hopefully we'll chalk up another GLO lady Governor soon!

Originally Posted by BadSquirrelBeta

Squirrel power! She should run on the Squirrel Party ticket...

The Governor of my state, Washington, is an NPC alum...but I can't recall if she is a KD, SK or DZ...anyhoo, hopefully we'll chalk up another GLO lady Governor soon!

A Google search said that Chris Gregoire is a Kappa Delta.

A bunch of news articles also popped up -- including this one:

http://www.realchangenews.org/pastis...u_can_use.html

that insinuated that her KD chapter at the University of Washington didn't allow non-whites.

[Tippiechick]

Originally Posted by AXiD670

Sigma Delta Tau, Alpha Xi Delta and Zeta Tau Alpha have been chosen to make presentations.

Article.

ETA: Ooops, posted before I finished my thoughts.

I'm a little surprised that ZTA's national president would say this:

"We'll give them an overview of the fraternity, foundation and housing corporation," she said. "I'd say of the three entities, we're the strongest nationally."

Un-panhellenic maybe. But, true. Everyone knows I could pretty much care less about being really panhellenic. To say that SDT or AXiD are as strong would be incorrect in my opinion. I am glad she had the balls to say the truth.

Originally Posted by Tippiechick

Un-panhellenic maybe. But, true. Everyone knows I could pretty much care less about being really panhellenic. To say that SDT or AXiD are as strong would be incorrect in my opinion. I am glad she had the balls to say the truth.

The truth, maybe...but for what purpose? Convincing NU's PHC to select ZTA? If PHC did select ZTA, I seriously doubt that it'd solely be because of the fact ZTA's stronger nationally than the other two.

If anything that comment probably raised many eyebrows, especially coming from a national president.

But we all know that inter/national presidents aren't perfect.

[BadSquirrelBeta]

Originally Posted by OTW

A Google search said that Chris Gregoire is a Kappa Delta.

A bunch of news articles also popped up -- including this one:

http://www.realchangenews.org/pastis...u_can_use.html

that insinuated that her KD chapter at the University of Washington didn't allow non-whites.

Oh yes...I vaguely remember this now. But the election was sooooo messed up that we didn't know for quite a while after the election who the governor was and the mud was slinging on both sides...so you never know what to believe. Frankly I looked at that more as the media's way to hack on the Greek system and just let it go in one ear and out the other...we get a lot of barbs from the media around here about rogue GLOs having both WSU and UW in the state. But, it is so petty the things they will attempt to pick up on.

/end hijak

It is kind of exciting when the GLOs are chosen to give presentations on campus. Hopefully the true fit for the campus, the demographic, etc., will easily be identified. Good luck to all the groups!

[SydneyK]

Originally Posted by BadSquirrelBeta

Hopefully the true fit for the campus, the demographic, etc., will easily be identified. Good luck to all the groups!

Having never witnessed an expansion, I can't help but be confused by this. If there isn't already a reputation of sorts, how does the campus/do the sororities know which group is demographically the best fit? All the groups have fine ideals - how can the best fit be determined, and who actually determines it? Is it mutual (i.e. the campus says to ZTA, "We'd like you" and ZTA says to the campus, "We're definitely interested.")? Or is it more one-sided (i.e. strictly the campus's decision)? You'd think that simply by participating in the presentation stage the three sororities are definitely interested in the campus... but then again, maybe once they get there and see the other chapters they might change their mind (this was just an example - nothing against any org at Northwestern, of course).

Like I said, I'm completely ignorant about this whole process. But, good luck to all involved! It's a positive thing that there is enough interest at Northwestern to warrant expansion!

[azureblue]

The University of Kansas in Lawrence has 8 out of 13!

Alpha Chi Omega - Phi
Alpha Delta Pi - Tau
Chi Omega - Lambda
Gamma Phi Beta - Sigma
Kappa Alpha Theta - Kappa
Kappa Kappa Gamma - Omega
Pi Beta Phi - Kansas Alpha
Sigma Kappa - Xi

[BadSquirrelBeta]

Originally Posted by SydneyK

Having never witnessed an expansion, I can't help but be confused by this. If there isn't already a reputation of sorts, how does the campus/do the sororities know which group is demographically the best fit? All the groups have fine ideals - how can the best fit be determined, and who actually determines it? Is it mutual (i.e. the campus says to ZTA, "We'd like you" and ZTA says to the campus, "We're definitely interested.")? Or is it more one-sided (i.e. strictly the campus's decision)? You'd think that simply by participating in the presentation stage the three sororities are definitely interested in the campus... but then again, maybe once they get there and see the other chapters they might change their mind (this was just an example - nothing against any org at Northwestern, of course).

Like I said, I'm completely ignorant about this whole process. But, good luck to all involved! It's a positive thing that there is enough interest at Northwestern to warrant expansion!

You raise good points. I personally have seen one expansion attempt that took on and off 6 years. It started out mutual, the University putting the word out another group was welcome and then groups saying yes/no. One group who had been there previously, is very strong nationally and had a great amount of alumnae interest and support was working on coming back. They gave a presentation to PNMs during FR (kind of an FYI, most likely a dry run for their anticipated presentations for the upcoming year) and their field staff was quite visable for quite some time on campus. It really felt like the entire NPC population was this big fishbowl the entire time all these GLOs were looking at campus. This group coming back was pretty much a no brainer we all thought, but in a shocking move by their national they all of a sudden halted their plans and left with a "thanks but not at this time". There was a local that had come out of the interest group that had formed over the first semester. Things kept moving very fast for this local despite the NPC group pulling out...the local was named with with GLs and got rec. from the university as a club and had "non-voting" status with our Panhellenic. They wouldn't participate in FR, but had great campus support. Then another national org. expressed interest in this colony and came for presentation...it seemed like a real hit for both groups right away. Their national staff really were well liked by the Panhellenic community--you could feel the "fit". They even pledged those girls in the colony. Long story short, again the national GLO pulled back and said "thanks but no thanks". I believe they let the colony members be initiated if they wished at the neighboring university if they didn't want to depledge to participate in the next FR. It was very sad for those girls, they were very bonded, wearing letters, participating in homecoming, etc. Not one I knew of went through the next FR. Our FR numbers were out of control and Greek Leaders kept a lobby for another NPC group to come to campus. We had huge overflow from GLO housing and it was really difficult for us to connect with NMs...by that time the University (very pro GLO) seemed very burned out with expansion and for a few years we had massive numbers. So things were dormant and it seemed that maybe the GLOs got a feel for the school that wasn't "good". Colonization and expansion felt like you were saying a dirty word for a while and locals went away again--who could blame them for feeling pretty burned out? Then another group came onto the scene and was able to get momentum behind them, establish housing and become chartered rather quickly, followed by yet again by the first group that had started expansion efforts who even built a new chapter house.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by OTW

The truth, maybe...but for what purpose? Convincing NU's PHC to select ZTA? If PHC did select ZTA, I seriously doubt that it'd solely be because of the fact ZTA's stronger nationally than the other two.

If anything that comment probably raised many eyebrows, especially coming from a national president.

But we all know that inter/national presidents aren't perfect.

I would really like to know if that was the whole quote, because it seems like something that could very easily be taken out of context and make them look very unpanhellenic. Depending on the culture of the campus, it could mess w/ their chances for this expansion oppportunity. You'd think a national president would avoid saying things that could bite them in the butt and make them or their group look bad.



stop laughing, Sandy.