Your thoughts on AI: discussion goes here.

tunatartare · #1 10-16-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

Fair enough. And why do you think that? What do you think of Drolefille's points?

The AI subforum has given off the impression that all of the sororities do AI and are accepting of it. For many sororities this is not the case. Since membership selection info is ritual, it is impossible for one person to know the AI policies of all 26 sororities, therefore it is better to nip any potential AI "Search" in the bud and tell the PNAM to contact the proper channels. If you don't do that there will be threads "Hi my name is Lauren. I'm 37 years old and I'm from Minnesota and I just found GC today searching for Vera bags. I didn't go to college but I'd love to be in a sorority now. After reading the forum, I have decided to contact Fendi, Prada, Kate Spade, Louis Vuitton, Herve Chapelier, Longchamp, Gucci about AI."

AlexMack · #2 10-16-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

The AI subforum has given off the impression that all of the sororities do AI and are accepting of it. For many sororities this is not the case. Since membership selection info is ritual, it is impossible for one person to know the AI policies of all 26 sororities, therefore it is better to nip any potential AI "Search" in the bud and tell the PNAM to contact the proper channels. If you don't do that there will be threads "Hi my name is Lauren. I'm 37 years old and I'm from Minnesota and I just found GC today searching for Vera bags. I didn't go to college but I'd love to be in a sorority now. After reading the forum, I have decided to contact Fendi, Prada, Kate Spade, Louis Vuitton, Herve Chapelier, Longchamp, Gucci about AI."

WORD to your mom, I came to drop bombs. Exactly.

tunatartare · #3 10-16-2006, 02:00 PM

I <3 you.

ReachTheLimit · #4 10-16-2006, 02:04 PM

But you are completely ignoring the fact that many sororities do welcome AI's and don't mind if they are contacted first by a PNM.

As another poster said earlier in this thread, the fact of whether or not they do AI is not ritual, HOW they select who they AI and who they don't, IS ritual.

If this information was ritual, then why was it listed in the sticky at the top of the AI forum?

You don't have to read two posts in this entire forum before someone makes reference to how long AI takes and how difficult it is. How in the world that you can say this gives the impression, I would love for you to find where someone posted that it was.

But wait, that might require accurate research. Nevermind.

tunatartare · #5 10-16-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

You don't have to read two posts in this entire forum before someone makes reference to how long AI takes and how difficult it is. How in the world that you can say this gives the impression, I would love for you to find where someone posted that it was.

But wait, that might require accurate research. Nevermind.

Read some of the older AI threads. The AI process took LouisaMay over 3 years.

ReachTheLimit · #6 10-16-2006, 02:15 PM

I went back about a year, and I never, ever thought it was a quick process. I figured that out probably within an hour of reading through.

When I started this process, I didn't have a personal timeline because it is a different process. I'm going to let nature take it's course, I have been invited to upcoming chapter activities, and a day will come when they are ready to have me or tell me I'm not a match.

That's ok. I have to get a chance to know them too, and who knows? I may decide, that we are not a match. But having a GOOD match, is very important to me.

epchick · #7 10-16-2006, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ReachTheLimit

But you are completely ignoring the fact that many sororities do welcome AI's and don't mind if they are contacted first by a PNM.

If that is the case with some sororities, then let it be...you don't have to advertise it all over GC that these sororities might welcome AIs. I don't think that headquarters (or whoever) is asking people on GC "please advertise that we do AIs so that we can get swarms of people asking about it"

If people want to go through AI...let them, but they have to do it in the appropriate way. I don't think seeing all these stories about how women "shopped around" is helping any.

ReachTheLimit · #8 10-16-2006, 02:11 PM

On the same token, I don't think any AI member said anything about "Oh yeah, contact XYZ because the process was a breeze for me"

I would challenge you to find a post that makes that reference for a women that had no previous ties.

The only people on the GC boards that are making those statements, oddly enough, are NOT AI's.

Jen · #9 10-16-2006, 02:13 PM

Oh, I've had some PMs from PNAMs asking if it was true that certain sororities were easier to AI into because they had more AI members here on GC.

ReachTheLimit · #10 10-16-2006, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ariesrising

Oh, I've had some PMs from PNAMs asking if it was true that certain sororities were easier to AI into because they had more AI members here on GC.

And that is an inappropriate question, I agree with you 100%, and they just need to be told that information isn't given on GC.

I'll back you up any day of the week on that one.

Jen · #11 10-16-2006, 02:09 PM

I think the D9 issue isn't that AI and intake are similar, but that the D9 forums have a very efficient way of dealing with membership inquiries and that is what should be used in the AI forum.

blueangel · #12 10-16-2006, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

The AI subforum has given off the impression that all of the sororities do AI and are accepting of it. For many sororities this is not the case. Since membership selection info is ritual, it is impossible for one person to know the AI policies of all 26 sororities, therefore it is better to nip any potential AI "Search" in the bud and tell the PNAM to contact the proper channels. If you don't do that there will be threads "Hi my name is Lauren. I'm 37 years old and I'm from Minnesota and I just found GC today searching for Vera bags. I didn't go to college but I'd love to be in a sorority now. After reading the forum, I have decided to contact Fendi, Prada, Kate Spade, Louis Vuitton, Herve Chapelier, Longchamp, Gucci about AI."

OK.. I understand that. And I've seen GC'ers suggest to PNAIs that they contact the proper channels. That's what the information exchange is about. When these thread DO pop up.. then it would be a good time for people to chime in about what AI is and how that's not appropriate.

These types of posts are relatively rare in the grand scheme of things. As I pointed out before.. it's not as if the floodgates have opened. There are just a handful or so of people who have posted that they are seeking AI on this forum. Why is it you perceive that it is? I'm also curious about something else.. does your local do AI?

kddani · #13 10-16-2006, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

These types of posts are relatively rare in the grand scheme of things. As I pointed out before.. it's not as if the floodgates have opened. There are just a handful or so of people who have posted that they are seeking AI on this forum.

They why is it that several NPC sororities have taken public information about AI down from their websites, and several have totally revamped/are in the process of revamping their AI policies? Several (Inter)National Officers from various groups have stated that a large part of the reason for both of those was the artificial market that GC was creating.

blueangel · #14 10-16-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kddani

They why is it that several NPC sororities have taken public information about AI down from their websites, and several have totally revamped/are in the process of revamping their AI policies? Several (Inter)National Officers from various groups have stated that a large part of the reason for both of those was the artificial market that GC was creating.

I don't know that to be fact. This sounds like here-say. Are there any speeches on the internet from these International Officers where I can read this?

If AI is ritual.. how would you know that about other groups?

epchick · #15 10-16-2006, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

I don't know that to be fact. This sounds like here-say. Are there any speeches on the internet from these International Officers where I can read this?

Do you get all your source material from the internet? I'm sorry, but its time to learn that there are other ways of getting information than from the internet!