Your thoughts on AI: discussion goes here.

blueangel · #1 10-12-2006, 12:54 PM

I think it's important that we agree on a definition before we discuss it further, or at least clarify it individually so that everyone knows what each other disagrees or disapproves of as it relates to this topic. I don't think everyone's difinition is the same.

Drolefille · #2 10-12-2006, 12:55 PM

Thus, since everyone's definition is NOT the same, we're not going to be able to agree on one.

Duh.

DSTCHAOS · #3 10-12-2006, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

I think it's important that we agree on a definition before we discuss it further

LOL! Did anyone say there had to be a discussion on "sorority shopping"...again?

(People are just trying to keep this topic going when, in actuality, all of the bases have really been covered.)

AlphaFrog · #4 10-12-2006, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

I think it's important that we agree on a definition before we discuss it further, or at least clarify it individually so that everyone knows what each other disagrees or disapproves of as it relates to this topic. I don't think everyone's difinition is the same.

I think everyone agreeing on a defintion of "sorority shopping" is about as likely as getting everyone to agree on IF there should be an AI forum, and IF there is WHAT should and should not be allowed.

In other words...forget it.

adpiucf · #5 10-12-2006, 01:07 PM

But the definition of sorority shopping isn't the point at issue. The main point is that many here don't want there to be an AI Forum on GC. And some others do want an AI Forum.

I don't want an AI Forum b/c AI members are sisters and don't need to feel like they need a separate section. There isn't any such thing as a "road to AI"-- when you are offered membership, post in the appropriate NPC Forum to be welcomed as a new sister. We'll celebrate everything to come, including initiation, together. The disbanding of this forum would be helpful to dispell the myth that AI is something to seek out. When sororities want to start promoting AI as open recruitment, they will.

Our HQ's are not going to weigh in on this and our sororities are going to continue to conduct AI if and how they want to.

Drolefille · #6 10-12-2006, 01:12 PM

I'd be ok with the above as long as people don't get shut down immediately (As in threads closed) if they ask about AI. Verbally shoot them down, sure, but prohibitting the conversation won't help.

blueangel · #7 10-12-2006, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf

But the definition of sorority shopping isn't the point at issue. The main point is that many here don't want there to be an AI Forum on GC. And some others do want an AI Forum.

I don't want an AI Forum b/c AI members are sisters and don't need to feel like they need a separate section. There isn't any such thing as a "road to AI"-- when you are offered membership, post in the appropriate NPC Forum to be welcomed as a new sister. We'll celebrate everything to come, including initiation, together. The disbanding of this forum would be helpful to dispell the myth that AI is something to seek out. When sororities want to start promoting AI as open recruitment, they will.

Our HQ's are not going to weigh in on this and our sororities are going to continue to conduct AI if and how they want to.

I appreciate and understand your view, however, I personally found this subforum extremely helpful to me as I was going through the process.. even though I was offered membership and didn't seek it out. I think it has it's place and I hope it continues.

I do understand and appreciate some of the objections expressed here.. but I think it's something that can be solved through a simple polite post back to the PNAI that is seeking AI in an objectionable fashion.

33girl · #8 10-12-2006, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

I do understand and appreciate some of the objections expressed here.. but I think it's something that can be solved through a simple polite post back to the PNAI that is seeking AI in an objectionable fashion.

You'd think.

But sometimes, not so much.

There have been people who signed on here with what I'll call "not in your best interest" usernames - things like "Imgonnabeadelta" or what have you. Sometimes they're just naive and overzealous and a gentle PM will set them straight.

But sometimes - it's the equivalent of a giant explosion in a poo factory.

AlphaFrog · #9 10-12-2006, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

I think it's something that can be solved through a simple polite post back to the PNAI that is seeking AI in an objectionable fashion.

The problem is, many recent PNAIs don't get it. Polite posting won't work, because even rude posting doesn't get through their thick skulls. And no, I don't think "well, if you were just nicer to them, they might have listened to you...".

Drolefille · #10 10-12-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

The problem is, many recent PNAIs don't get it. Polite posting won't work, because even rude posting doesn't get through their thick skulls. And no, I don't think "well, if you were just nicer to them, they might have listened to you...".

If people don't get it, they won't get it until every sorority of their dreams tells them no. But, people make asses of themselves on message boards all the time. Crazy PNAIs don't really promote AI, if anything I think they're a discouragement to others.

PinkandGreenJ · #11 10-12-2006, 03:00 PM

Crazy PNAI even scare away the nice, normal, successful AI.

indygphib · #12 10-12-2006, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by adpiucf

I don't want an AI Forum b/c AI members are sisters and don't need to feel like they need a separate section. There isn't any such thing as a "road to AI"-- when you are offered membership, post in the appropriate NPC Forum to be welcomed as a new sister. We'll celebrate everything to come, including initiation, together. The disbanding of this forum would be helpful to dispell the myth that AI is something to seek out. When sororities want to start promoting AI as open recruitment, they will.

Well said! I couldn't agree more!

blueangel · #13 10-12-2006, 01:29 PM

I'm just trying to get a handle on the term, because "sorority shopping" seems to be one of the main reasons people are objecting to the AI forum. But if "sorority shopping" means different things to different people, then it's difficult to know exactly why people object.

AlphaFrog · #14 10-12-2006, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blueangel

I'm just trying to get a handle on the term, because "sorority shopping" seems to be one of the main reasons people are objecting to the AI forum. But if "sorority shopping" means different things to different people, then it's difficult to know exactly why people object.

Torture means different things to different people...yet it's not hard to figure out why people object.

Why do we have to have a uniform definition for people to object to something??

AXO Alum · #15 10-12-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog

Torture means different things to different people...yet it's not hard to figure out why people object.

DRAT! If I didn't need so much room for my siggy (proclaiming that hair transplants ARE the wave of the future... did you know?) then I would SO post this there. I think that is a great way to sum up the definition