Your thoughts on AI: discussion goes here.

[chitownxo]

Originally Posted by kstar

I'm not generally in this "vocal minority" yet I want the forum gone. This forum undermines the membership selection process, which is ritual. Also, this forum cheapens the women that have truly EARNED their Alumna Initiation.

I agree.

[ms_gwyn]

I don't like getting into the argument b/c I don't like getting ganged up on, plain and simple.

My views on AI are very clearly documented on GC and I really don't care if I am considered one of those PNAM that "shopped" if you look at a lot of threads started in 2003, it would seem that they "shopped" as well, whatever, this will be my first and last post on this subject in this thread.

I like the forum, I would like for it to stay, its the pettiness that gets me and some of the hypocrites, I get a kick out of as well.

Just because I don't post my opinions doesn't mean that I don't have them, but most of the recent threads have turned into trainwreaks.

I really have nothing more to add....

gwyn

[Drolefille]

I feel like the sane people asking for moderation and not 100% one way or the other are being ignored in the hard core fight going on.

I don't think it's all or nothing (and I include immediate lockage in the nothing category). But I wrote a lovely post on that which was sadly ignored due to other rantings. I hope it at least made sense. I don't advocate shopping etc. but as long as there are threads on GC about AI, there will be discussion of AI and people who come here because of AI. Unless you strip all of that out of the old threads, it's not going to change much.

I don't feel like it should be a forbidden topic. And I think we should be allowed to discourage or encourage people as appropriate. Even if the subforum were to be deleted, I think discussion should occur in the Alumni Involvement forum as before the subforum's creation.

[greekalum]

Wellllllllll.... if some AIs want to post threads in the Alumni Involvement forum about things like, "What is your interaction with your alumnae group like as an AI"? I think that would be appropriate, but what I think would be more appropriate would be for them to just post in the regular threads discussing alum issues since they are, once initiated, just like anyone else.

People who are SEEKING AI are not alums of anything. I don't think they fit in the Alumni Involvement forum.

There is no discreet, tactful way to run a thread in which you are shopping for an organization to join as an alum. So I don't think we need a place for it. ReachTheLimit's post about what she is doing was about as appropriate as can be, but I don't know that what she posted needs *discussion*. If she does become an AI, she can post about her experience in that organization's subforum, where she would be welcomed.

[Drolefille]

Theoretically most things on here don't "need" discussion. Someone coming to GC may be looking for support among people who "get" Greek-ness (whereas her family/friends may not) or they may have been on GC already and want everyone to know.

Tell me you've never posted something in nervous anticipation about it... it's a message board not a deep meaningful discussion board.

People seeking AI should be able to post what they wish without getting shut down. They aren't posting membership information and they aren't posting ritual. They may be indiscreet, but they are not in violation of the TOS. I also think that people should be able to encourage and discourage them as they wish without either side getting into a huge fight on EVERY thread. Perhaps this thread could then stay open to take the fights to.

I don't know. I don't think the subforum is the problem. I think the polarization of the GC membership is.