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10-03-2006, 09:52 PM
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I will never ever EVER understand the invite back rate that happens at larger campuses. I can understand cutting girls if you just dont feel right about them, but being told you are ONLY allowed to invite back X number of girls seems like....you're cutting the possibilities of girls who want to become greek. Precisely the reason my campus doesnt have total is because if 20 girls go through formal recruitment, all 20 girls are gonna get a bid....because we wanna maximize greek life for women. Unfortunately, some do drop after pledging, but that happens anywhere...not just small schools who extended everyone a bid.
It's like when my advisor has tried to explain to explain bid matching before and girls end up not getting bids, but yet they are allowed to COR....I just dont flippin' get how you can be one of the top ranked girls throughout formal recruitment, but yet your number one on you pref list doesnt match up with their number one so you dont get a bid at all....but yet, you can be CORed *rolls eyes*
I am so glad I dont go to an SEC school. As a 23 year old freshman, they would have laughed at me going through recruitment anyway.
Good luck Tresa. Keep us updated....I keep coming back to read the thread....
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10-04-2006, 10:07 PM
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okay, I'm dying over here....What's the word? *grin*
//mini-hijack
keep y'alls fingers crossed for Iota Theta. We might hit record breaking numbers tomorrow. Spring 2004, We colonized with 11 girls. Right now, we have 11 girls. Tomorrow, we're extending a bid. Keep your fingers crossed that she accepts! If she does, that will be a new member class of 7 girls! WOOHOO!
//end hi-jack
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10-04-2006, 10:39 PM
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Amanda, mandatory cut rates don't necessarily prevent women from becoming Greek. Let's say all sororities have to cut 20 women each; what makes the system work is that the sororities will not cut the same 20 women. It's true that some women are more sought after than others, but sororities are looking for different traits in their members. And generally they won't all have to cut 20; there is often a sorority that doesn't have to make cuts because its return rate in previous years was low. (That doesn't mean they won't elect to voluntarily make cuts.)
That said, I don't think it's a bad thing to cut the possibilities of some girls who want to become Greek! Being a GLO is supposed to be an honor; it is supposed to recognize good character and scholarship. If a rushee does not have those traits, they do not meet membership requirements. We stand for more than just earnest desire to be a sister. What we hope is that the membership process eliminates the right people (er, the wrong people?) - that the women who will make good sisters get the bids and those who will not don't. Despite what we say on here sometimes, I don't think there is or should be a Greek home for everyone.
In super-large systems sometimes excellent women do fall through the cracks. But this isn't true most places. If there is deferred recruitment, or if it's a small campus, sisters and rushees tend to know something of each other going in.
Sorry we're hijacking here, TC. Thanks for posting this thread! I love reading about recruitment from the advisor's and chapter's perspective.
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10-04-2006, 11:15 PM
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Preference
OK, winding down now. The chapter invited back 40 women, and 39 accepted. That makes a 98% acceptance rate!!! Whoo hooo!!!
The room was the lobby of the old Auditorium. Black plastic had been hung over all of the plate glass windows by Panhel, making it dark and evening-like. With the tea lights and candles for decoration, along with scads of pink roses, the room looked pretty nice. There were three parties. The ceremony was wonderful. A sophomore spoke about joining last semester, and a senior spoke about being away from the chapter while in London last year, and dreading graduation because it meant she would have to leave the chapter again. The ladies looked beautiful in their black clothing, very elegant and lady-like. I was SO PROUD of them the entire night. They showed real class.
For various reasons (PM me if you want details here), we ended up with 32 attendees.
The chapter was told about an hour after the last party was over that 50 women had signed bid cards, leaving total at 16. We nervously created our first and second bid lists, then at 12:00 AM our MVP left with the ELC to input our selections to "the computer".
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10-04-2006, 11:17 PM
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Bid Day
I am proud to announce that the Iota Zeta Chapter of Alpha Xi Delta welcomed 18 New Members into their Sisterhood!!!!!
They took quota plus 2 Quota additions!!!!
They are now one over total!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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10-04-2006, 11:31 PM
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HOORAY! Yay for Iota Zeta!
Okay...I have another question....simply because I dont understand....
If quota is 16...and you got 18....how many girls is the chapter allowed to put on their list of "We want *these* girls"? Were you allowed to put 16 down, and then the B list you referred to grabbed the other 2? I mean, like, for example just throwing out a number here - if 25 girls listed Alpha Xi as their first choice, and assumiong that you guys wanted all 25 of those girls, how does the system "limit" how many you actually get? I understand the quote process. I DONT understand quote PLUS...
Does my question even make sense?
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10-05-2006, 07:10 AM
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I'll see if I can make sense of it for you (you may also want to refer to the Quota additions thread in the Recruitment forum or to the "green book" for additional help).
We had 50 women sign bid cards. There are three organizations. If Quota is 16, then there are 2 women "left over" (50/3=16. with 2 remainder). The two "extra" women were then placed with a chapter with whom they matched who they listed on their bid cards and who had them on their bid list, providing they did not SIP. Apparently, that was us!!!
We turned in 2 bid lists: 1st list had the first 16 women in alphabetical order. The second list had another 16 women ranked. Everyone who we invited to Preference was on one of our two lists, excluding women who dropped out of Recruitment. This *could* mean that our second bid list had 20 women on it. It can be longer (or shorter) than the first. A chapter will receive women with whom they matched, beginning with those on the first list, then continuing through the second list until we reach 16. At that point we wait until everyone else has reached Quota, or until it becomes obvious that they won't- no matter how many times we go through the cards, then unmatched women become eligible for Quota additions (as long as they did not SIP).
Women who dropped out of Recruitment at any point, and women we invited back but who did not attend our party, are eligible for snap bidding. Snap bidding would be used for us to reach Quota.
If I have this wrong, or have made it even more unclear, someone please jumo in and help!!
I am also glad to say that every woman who signed a bid card received a bid!!! There are 50 fabulous new members in our Greek system!!!
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