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[macallan25]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

Expanding on this, I think it's interesting the lack of knowledge that us fraternity guys have on the subject. I had only heard of it in Kappa Sig for VERY specific circumstances: for example, a close relative (grandson I believe) of one of the fraternity's most important members was initiated as an alum. He had given a lot of time and money to the fraternity to that point. I can think of a couple other examples of people who gave an immense amount of their time to the fraternity in other capacities who were initiated.

I still can't completely wrap my head around the reasons for doing it, on either side of the coin, but I'll defer to think it should be left off the board (because of membership discussions, etc.).

Yeah, I have really never heard much about it. I know of several men who have been given special recognitions by various chapters of SAE, but I dunno if they were actually initiated or not. Barry Switzer is one that comes to mind.......I have heard from a couple people that he is an "honorary" initiate of Oklahoma Kappa........but I dunno if that is the same thing as an alumni initiation.

Originally Posted by macallan25

Yeah, I have really never heard much about it. I know of several men who have been given special recognitions by various chapters of SAE, but I dunno if they were actually initiated or not. Barry Switzer is one that comes to mind.......I have heard from a couple people that he is an "honorary" initiate of Oklahoma Kappa........but I dunno if that is the same thing as an alumni initiation.

I can't speak for the other NPCs, but an AI into my organization is not an honorary member, as she receives all the same privileges and benefits entitled to members initiated as collegians. We don't have honorary members, period.

[AChiOhSnap]

Originally Posted by macallan25

Yeah, I have really never heard much about it. I know of several men who have been given special recognitions by various chapters of SAE, but I dunno if they were actually initiated or not. Barry Switzer is one that comes to mind.......I have heard from a couple people that he is an "honorary" initiate of Oklahoma Kappa........but I dunno if that is the same thing as an alumni initiation.

I believe that "honorary initiatiation" in a fraternity is essentially the same thing as NPC AI. I'm aware of a few men who have been honorary initiates of fraternities (usually they're famous or closely related to big shots in the fraternity) and they go through ritual and are afforded full rights of the brotherhood. This could be different for other groups, but as far as I've heard, all honorary fraternity initiates are considered members and wear the letters, badge and crest.

Please correct me if I'm wrong or if your group has a different kind of honorary initiate.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by AChiOhSnap

I believe that "honorary initiatiation" in a fraternity is essentially the same thing as NPC AI. I'm aware of a few men who have been honorary initiates of fraternities (usually they're famous or closely related to big shots in the fraternity) and they go through ritual and are afforded full rights of the brotherhood. This could be different for other groups, but as far as I've heard, all honorary fraternity initiates are considered members and wear the letters, badge and crest.

Please correct me if I'm wrong or if your group has a different kind of honorary initiate.

Honorary is by invitation-only just like some NPCers have said their AI is, however it is my understanding that for many organizations honoraries do not have to apply for membership, go through membership intake processes, or pay for initiation the exact same as a non-honorary does.

Honoraries still have all the same rights and responsibilities as non-honoraries but different procedures for membership.