PAC -10 Suspends Officials For Calls in Oklahoma Game

[macallan25]

Originally Posted by KSig RC

He doesn't get the ABC feed b/c that would allow the ABC commentators, producers and etc. undue influence in the outcome of the game (through speaking, or even by choosing which angles to replay).

Because of the replay rules, every D1 game is now filmed (even ones w/out any sort of TV coverage - HI BIG XII SYSTEM!) by multiple camera angles, and the replay official has access to those angles, as well as the ability to play back, slow down, etc (these may or may not be also used in the telecast - as far as I know, some are, some are not). Note that slowing down is a new ability - in the past, they were forced to watch it in 'real time' - but even with these options the replay official is limited in the amount of time allotted. This amount of time is determined by the Head Judge on the field, IIRC. Here, the ABC crew was reportedly putting some pressure on, as well - they have advertisers, etc to keep happy, integrity of the game be damned.

This means technical difficulties can and will happen, and will directly affect how the replay official can do his job because of the time limit - it's just crappy that here, they happened after an already attrocious call. The guy in the booth needs evidence to overturn even the worst call - he didn't get it, so he did what he was supposed to do.

I don't know what you mean by no TV coverage in the Big XII, oh well.

So why couldn't they play the ABC feeds with no sound? Pretty sure you didn't need any to get that call right.

[KSig RC]

Originally Posted by macallan25

I don't know what you mean by no TV coverage in the Big XII, oh well.

Oh - I wasn't taking a cut at Big XII teams here, just that the Big XII signed a pretty bad TV contract a while back, which doesn't put every game on regional coverage (because it's slanted toward much wider coverage of important games, read: Texas teams minus Baylor) . . . this means that some of the teams had to pay for video for their non-conference games, even though it wouldn't be on TV, purely for replay purposes. AFAIK, this is the last year of that tragic deal, and they'll be making much more per team with future deals.

Originally Posted by macallan25

So why couldn't they play the ABC feeds with no sound? Pretty sure you didn't need any to get that call right.

When I say "feed" I mean the literal feed to the viewer, as dictated by the production trailer - they do have access to most (if not all) camera angles. This actually was part of the problem in the Oregon case, if I'm reading correctly - the two angles that were clear (and they were VERY clear) were the ones that didn't come in before the HJ asked for a ruling, and he couldn't slog through the others fast enough.

Either way, there's no doubt OU got jobbed here - I just don't think it was intentional. PAC-10 officials may very well suck on the whole, but in this case it just seems like a confluence of shitty events for the Sooners. No way the record can be changed, though - that would be a terrible precedent.

[shinerbock]

The absolute only case when a game should be overturned or negated is when the final call which ACTUALLY decides the game is completely blown. I'm talking when a field goal is good and they say its not, or when somebody is in/out of bounds on the last play in the endzone...I don't think there should be any debate in the OU case, the call was bad, but the bad call led to a drive that won the game. Game deciding yes, but the conclusion was still drawn on inferences.