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09-19-2006, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Drolefille
If there isn't a gender neutral term, using the masculine is automatically sexist?
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Yes.
Who determined that there had to be a gender neutral term? How did male become the default to the point where female is figuratively (and sometimes literally) invisible in society?
Oh, I get it--it's because Adam was a male and Eve came from his rib..........
Either case, going back and forth with you on this is the same as going back and forth with macallan if you also fail to see the social significance of it all.
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09-19-2006, 04:06 PM
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Yes.
Who determined that there had to be a gender neutral term? How did male become the default to the point where female is figuratively (and sometimes literally) invisible in society?
Oh, I get it--it's because Adam was a male and Eve came from his rib..........
Either case, going back and forth with you on this is the same as going back and forth with macallan if you also fail to see the social significance of it all.
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Because without a gender neutral term you have to choose male or female. In English you can say "They" in Latin languages you have to say "They-female or "They-male"
Saying "you guys" is casual, NOT Sexist.
See sexism where it's hurting something. If women are "invisible in society" due to saying "You guys"... it is not the men's fault.
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09-19-2006, 04:08 PM
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Because without a gender neutral term you have to choose male or female.
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Good idea.
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09-19-2006, 04:11 PM
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See sexism where it's hurting something. If women are "invisible in society" due to saying "You guys"... it is not the men's fault.
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This part of your post is a very elementary way of thinking of our social world. But the people who will get my point have already gotten it. 
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09-19-2006, 04:09 PM
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Who determined that there had to be a gender neutral term? How did male become the default to the point where female is figuratively (and sometimes literally) invisible in society?
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Someone about 2000 BC. If you want to go and try to change 4000 years of history and tradition, be my guess.
"Yo, all you its" - is that neutral enough for you?
/Also refraining from a SHIM reference.
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09-19-2006, 04:14 PM
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Someone about 2000 BC. If you want to go and try to change 4000 years of history and tradition, be my guess.
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Racism began before some of us were born. So what's your point?
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"Yo, all you its" - is that neutral enough for you?
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I can think of much more educated options. But, thanks.
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09-19-2006, 04:18 PM
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Racism began before some of us were born. So what's your point?
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Yes, -isms have exsisted forever, and will probably continue forever. It's called human nature.
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I can think of much more educated options. But, thanks.
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Just giving an example, but if you would like to give a better one, you may.
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09-19-2006, 05:28 PM
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Yes, -isms have exsisted forever, and will probably continue forever. It's called human nature.
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Splendid. So what was your point?
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