UGa Chi Phis declared 'open season' on black women?

[shinerbock]

AKA, I really have no idea what you said. I'm sure you're intelligent, but that doesn't mean you're right. If you'd like to clarify your problems, I'll respond more appropriately.

As for my feelings on black women, I don't know what you're talking about. Once again, clarify if you wish, and I'll get back to you.

[AKA_Monet]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

AKA, I really have no idea what you said. I'm sure you're intelligent, but that doesn't mean you're right. If you'd like to clarify your problems, I'll respond more appropriately.

As for my feelings on black women, I don't know what you're talking about. Once again, clarify if you wish, and I'll get back to you.

It goes back a long time ago. I still dredge this old thread up when I have had enough of the lunacy.

Ladies men?

Basically what I am saying is these Chi Phi pledges, have no "charisma" with the ladies. If they did have "charisma", they would us images from "Playboy".

I think they were asked to humiliate themselves by showing pornographic images of certain kinds of women. I find that rather pathetic to uplift a manhood.

But then, what would have the school done if these same pledges showed porn pictures from a "Black Beefcake"-type magazine? Or a pre-opt transsexual porn magazine?

See the issue is these hazing acts could get worse and worse.

The other issue is that Black women generally are dehumanized from any erotica. You RARELY observe Black women as the main character in a romantic movie. The number of Black woman characters in these types of movies can be counted on my hands. Then of those movies, mostly all Black women fail to be of dark complexion. They are of lighter complexion and usually able to pass for caucasian.

So what does that do to the self-esteem of young Black girls growing up? The "cute" girls have hair attachments of long straight blonded hair, when most of OUR hair is "nappy" and "Afros"...

So the fact that these young Chi Phi pledges were told to show pornographic pictures of nude Black women from a smut magazine in order to join this particular IFC fraternity, is well in my book, about these little boys not having the "balls" enough to stand up for what they think is right and true. Then falling under pressure to fit in.

Where is the greater philathropy here? Is this what Chi Phi about?

And if history is any teacher, it is only a matter of time when the next group of pledges will start to dehumanize other women...

"An injustice in one place is an injustice everywere and for everyone"

Dr. Martin Luther King

[shinerbock]

Well, I'm still unclear how this really relates to me, but I'll throw in my opinions anyhow...

Nobody is saying it wasn't stupid, but I just don't see that its really racist. Black pornography probably has a slightly different humor/shock/intrigue value, for example, the little white kid in road trip hooking up with the big black girl. Its just kind of a less than ordinary thing for white people to be consistantly attracted to black people, which makes it more intriguing probably. I'm not sure if black people feel the same way about white porn, not sure. They probably could have used something like transexuals, but I really think that would gross the pledges out, and they probably didn't want to be at all associated with something like that. I'm not justifying anything, just trying to follow what little reasoning went on...

As for the image of black women, I somewhat understand your point. You're not gonna see many black women in romantic comedies, because they are targeting a majority audience. However, you do have "black movies" starring them, which white people usually skip. I think the audiences are very different, and thus they're targeted in different ways. I really don't think most black people will identify well with um..."must love dogs," nor will white people identify well with "insert black romantic comedy here." As for the image sought by young black women, I obviously have no idea about that. I'm not really attracted to "nappy" hair, but then I doubt they're hoping for me to come try and start a relationship with them. I imagine a lot of whats attractive is derived from what black men and the media desire, and I don't think that is much different from what white women experience growing up.

As for the Chi Phi pledges, I agree that pornography dehumanizes women. I also think they do it to themselves, although they probably had factors which led them into such things. Thus, I think pornography in and of itself can be harmful to women, but I don't think what these kids were doing was sexist.

[DSTCHAOS]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well, I'm still unclear how this really relates to me, but I'll throw in my opinions anyhow...

I'm a bit confused, as well.

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