Northern Woman Getting Bids at an SEC School

[NUBlue&Blue]

"Here's something to throw in the mix. The Georgia Hope scholarship has made it harder on GA girls going through Recruitment at Bama and probably elsewhere as well. Chapters have been "burned" by pledging GA girls who: 1) Only attend long enough to get their grades up enough to transfer back home for the free tuition. 2) After a year of paying out of state tuition Mom and Dad tell her they can't afford it or simply don't want to pay it anymore and she must move back home because it's free".

Auburn and Alabama are also not getting the best girls from Georgia, either, because these are the girls that can't get into UGA and it's their back up school. A lot of the girls going to Bama, Missippippi and Auburn from our HS couldn't qualify for HOPE anyway, and may or may not ever get their grades up. But they definitely aren't getting Georgia's top students.

[Elephant Walk]

Phi Delt pledged a guy from Jersey...and he was like a typical Jersey kid. I think he must of had connections because there is no way we would have pledged a guy from the north, furthermore from that state.

[kathykd2005]

I'm not really sure why it is so shocking that someone from the north may want to go to a school in the South. I am myself from NY, and I went to college in Charlotte, NC. One reason a lot of people decide to go to southern schools as opposed to northern ones is because they are often a lot cheaper. Particularly with reference to private colleges, the difference in tuition is exponential (I know this because I worked for my school's Admissions office for four years). I had no prior connection to my southern university--I was simply recruited well. Also, with reference to my Greek experience, many of the Panhellenic sororities on my campus recruited northern women, because they recognized traits in these women that they sought to add to their sisterhood. I'm actually somewhat surprised that where someone is from has anything to do with whether or not they will be recruited by certain organizations.

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by kathykd2005

I'm not really sure why it is so shocking that someone from the north may want to go to a school in the South. I am myself from NY, and I went to college in Charlotte, NC. One reason a lot of people decide to go to southern schools as opposed to northern ones is because they are often a lot cheaper. Particularly with reference to private colleges, the difference in tuition is exponential (I know this because I worked for my school's Admissions office for four years). I had no prior connection to my southern university--I was simply recruited well. Also, with reference to my Greek experience, many of the Panhellenic sororities on my campus recruited northern women, because they recognized traits in these women that they sought to add to their sisterhood. I'm actually somewhat surprised that where someone is from has anything to do with whether or not they will be recruited by certain organizations.

I am also from your area. I decided to go to the University of Florida because it has one of the best broadcast journalism programs in the country. And.. you can't beat the weather!

When I went through rush, I found most of the sororities were completely open to women from anywhere. There were only two out of all of them at the time which looked for southerners.. one was comprised of very "deep south" women (ala "The Southern Belle Primer") and another sorority that seemed to take in only women from in-state. I checked that chapter's website out of curiosity not too long ago for the members and their hometowns, and sure enough.. they're still all from Florida.

It wasn't until I moved to Florida that I realized for the first time that some people haven't gotten word yet that the civil war is over.

[Tom Earp]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Phi Delt pledged a guy from Jersey...and he was like a typical Jersey kid. I think he must of had connections because there is no way we would have pledged a guy from the north, furthermore from that state.

Hm, it may be interesting to learn from others instead of being In Bred so to speak!

It is a lot bigger wolrd than you may think!

That is why I Talk via Phone dailey with Members of other GLOs besides mine.

Expand or be a ????

Live and learn, You may live in NJ some day!

Learn the Lingo!

[Elephant Walk]

Originally Posted by Tom Earp

Hm, it may be interesting to learn from others instead of being In Bred so to speak!

It is a lot bigger wolrd than you may think!

That is why I Talk via Phone dailey with Members of other GLOs besides mine.

Expand or be a ????

Live and learn, You may live in NJ some day!

Learn the Lingo!

Mr. Earp, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.

If I had to live in Jersey, I would rather become a slave somewhere in Mississippi than move there. "Dailey" is spelled "daily" and "In Bred" is one word, "inbred". I spend wayy too much time talking to members of other GLO's besides mine, seeing as I my graduating high school class was over 1/5 my graduating class was Greek (excluding hispanics and blacks, who do not have a chance of primarily white GLO's...no offense, that's how it is in the south, i'm not going to justify it). Learn what lingo man?

[blueangel]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

Phi Delt pledged a guy from Jersey...and he was like a typical Jersey kid. I think he must of had connections because there is no way we would have pledged a guy from the north, furthermore from that state.

So you don't like people from the Channel Islands? Why not? They have charming British accents.

[alum]

Isn't it more difficult to get into a state school as an out-of-state (OOS) student vs an instate (ISS) assuming that the national rankings are relatively close? So even if a Georgia girl doesn't get the Hope Scholarship, wouldn't it still be easier and cheaper for her to go to UGa or GaTech vs OOS to Ole Miss/Alabama etc?

North Carolina has it mandated through the state legislature that no more than 15-18% of students at each public university (to include the flagship, Chapel Hill) can be OOS. I think that's great for NC residents. After all, state taxes are partially used to subsidize the public school system. Most of the people in VA wish our commonwealth would legislate the maximum percentage of OOSers at our public colleges and universities, but the politicians in Charlottesville haven't done so.

Originally Posted by NUBlue&Blue

Auburn and Alabama are also not getting the best girls from Georgia, either, because these are the girls that can't get into UGA and it's their back up school. A lot of the girls going to Bama, Missippippi and Auburn from our HS couldn't qualify for HOPE anyway, and may or may not ever get their grades up. But they definitely aren't getting Georgia's top students.

[NUBlue&Blue]

Totally depends on the school.

Yes, it's cheaper to go to UGA or Tech, but they aren't getting in because the HOPE has made the admissions much more competitive for in state students. Students who would've gone out of state or private are staying here. It is getting to be "big d@mn deal" to get into UGA these days. Plenty of people my age who went there say they could never get in now. This opinion is totally anecdotal, but at our HS, if you can't get into UGA, you go to Auburn/Alabama/OleMiss, not the other way around.

To get in to UNC-Chapel Hill or UVA, you need to be in the high 1400's to 1500 and in the top one or two in your class. We've had 3 from our HS get into UNC the last two years and only one get into UVA. I've heard UT-Austin is difficult, too, but not too many people head that far out from our HS.

[UF56]

The same thing is occurring in Florida because of our Bright Futures scholarship. I have taught HS for the past three years and have noticed every year that is it is harder for the students to get into UF. I haven't noticed the trend with FSU but I am sure it is happening. This past year the valedictorian and salutitorian did not get into UF however they did get into FSU. The sad thing is that they both had like 4.5's and over 1400 on their SATS as well as tons of volunteering and extracirriculars. I think more and more Florida students are going to Auburn. I know quite a few girls who have gone without recs and have become Phi Mus and DZs. But sometimes I think SEC schools consider students from SEC states as locals and not necessairly the same as someone from say New York.

[KillarneyRose]

Originally Posted by UF56

I have taught HS for the past three years and have noticed every year that is it is harder for the students to get into UF.

Have you really been out of college for three years???? It doesn't seem that long ago that you were colonizing your chapter!

[kdonline]

Originally Posted by UF56

The same thing is occurring in Florida because of our Bright Futures scholarship. I have taught HS for the past three years and have noticed every year that is it is harder for the students to get into UF.

Yes, this is so true. At the high school I taught @ in Miami, probably 90% of the students in the IB program went to UF, rather than going out of state, because of the free tuition from the Bright Futures scholarships, etc...

I was shocked when one of my students turned down Harvard to go to UF for free. Personally, I'd WANT my kid to choose Harvard over UF - and I'm a die-hard Gator - I will gladly take out loans (if I have to) to pay for an Ivy League education.

[alum]

Originally Posted by kdonline

Yes, this is so true. At the high school I taught @ in Miami, probably 90% of the students in the IB program went to UF, rather than going out of state, because of the free tuition from the Bright Futures scholarships, etc...

I was shocked when one of my students turned down Harvard to go to UF for free. Personally, I'd WANT my kid to choose Harvard over UF - and I'm a die-hard Gator - I will gladly take out loans (if I have to) to pay for an Ivy League education.

Here is a link to an article regarding the issue of whether some state universities are admitting too many out of state students, while excluding students from the home state.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/educati...es-cover_x.htm

Kdonline, I definitely agree with your opinion. An education from a top LAC or research university is well worth the cost.

[Zillini]

While I understand your point about the top notch Ivy League schools, I have to disagree. Ok, maybe not completely disagree but I'd certainly have to think long and hard about it.

Free education at a highly respected in state school vs. $42,500+ per year for out of state at Harvard (tuition, room & board, books and supplies cost listed at http://www.collegetoolkit.com/Colleg...d/166027.aspx). Of course that's without any financial assistance that may be available and accumulated savings which would have to be factored in to the decision.

I don't know what my Hubby, my son and I would decide if we were in this situation. I don't want to see my son saddled with massive loan payments for the rest of his life. Nor do I want to jeopardize my Hubby's and my future by taking on massive debt as we near retirement age. We're not planning on retiring in luxury. We simply don't want to end up in the poorhouse and have to rely on our son to take care of us financially either.

[Munchkin03]

Originally Posted by kdonline

Yes, this is so true. At the high school I taught @ in Miami, probably 90% of the students in the IB program went to UF, rather than going out of state, because of the free tuition from the Bright Futures scholarships, etc...

I was shocked when one of my students turned down Harvard to go to UF for free. Personally, I'd WANT my kid to choose Harvard over UF - and I'm a die-hard Gator - I will gladly take out loans (if I have to) to pay for an Ivy League education.

This is true...when I was writing the UF Recs, all of the young women who would have gone out of state stayed in because of Bright Futures. They were also telling me that about half of the kids from the local HS (an IB school) didn't get in! I'm sure I've said it before, but 8 years ago, UF was my SAFETY, and it was for most of the kids in my IB class. I almost didn't apply because I was 99% sure I wasn't going to go.

My sister, a UF alum, insisted that I NOT go to UF and to go to my much more expensive school! I'm glad I listened to her (for once!).

UCF is becoming more popular among kids who don't get into UF.