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Old 08-25-2006, 11:14 AM
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Regardless of appeals costs (which I'm sure there are plenty in non-death penalty cases as well, although I'm aware of the auto appeal), I still can't imagine that abolishing the death penalty would really reduce punishment costs in any substantial amount (if at all).

Regarding Bill Maher, I've never seen him shame anyone. His show is a joke. He generally brings on like one republican he picked up off the street to debate himself and James Carville. The basic show is like, "alright, we're gonna have a fair debate tonight with Shannon Doherty for the GOP, and Paul Begala and John Edwards for the left...Obviously I'll be the "impartial" moderator."
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:18 AM
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Regardless of appeals costs (which I'm sure there are plenty in non-death penalty cases as well, although I'm aware of the auto appeal), I still can't imagine that abolishing the death penalty would really reduce punishment costs in any substantial amount (if at all).

Regarding Bill Maher, I've never seen him shame anyone. His show is a joke. He generally brings on like one republican he picked up off the street to debate himself and James Carville. The basic show is like, "alright, we're gonna have a fair debate tonight with Shannon Doherty for the GOP, and Paul Begala and John Edwards for the left...Obviously I'll be the "impartial" moderator."
Maybe not a lot, but I also think it's NOT fullproof as our legal system is full of errors. Plus I think living with what you've done is a worse punishment than dying, especially for those who welcome death. And finally, there is a chance for these people to internally redeem themselves whether by regaining faith or whatever. We shouldn't let them out of jail because of it, but giving them the chance to "repent" so to speak is, IMO, the right thing to do.

I'll try to find the citation for the cost of life imprisonment vs. death penalty.
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Old 08-25-2006, 11:50 AM
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Maybe not a lot, but I also think it's NOT fullproof as our legal system is full of errors. Plus I think living with what you've done is a worse punishment than dying, especially for those who welcome death. And finally, there is a chance for these people to internally redeem themselves whether by regaining faith or whatever. We shouldn't let them out of jail because of it, but giving them the chance to "repent" so to speak is, IMO, the right thing to do.

I'll try to find the citation for the cost of life imprisonment vs. death penalty.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108

There's a ton of info.

shinerbock, I wouldn't be surprised if you reversed your position on the death penalty by the time you're out of law school. A lot of people do.
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Old 08-25-2006, 12:01 PM
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http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/article.php?did=108

There's a ton of info.

shinerbock, I wouldn't be surprised if you reversed your position on the death penalty by the time you're out of law school. A lot of people do.
Thanks, interesting link though I haven't clicked around enough to determine how biased the site is (as these things all too often are )

Another thought I had, we are one of the few "western" countries to still have the death penalty (or at least to use it). Though some may disdain this comparison by saying that we're not trying to impress Europe etc, there is something to be said for international standards.
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