Recruitment vs. Rush - Page 3

ADPi Conniebama · #31 08-15-2006, 02:22 PM

yea, I am not saying that sororities "over release" when they release the number they are told to release by panhellenic . . I am saying that a sorority who releases MORE girls then they are told to release early on is "over releasing."

Seems to me there are only a few reasons a chapter doesn't make quota with these new release figures. (I am not saying - off of quota by 5 I am saying a chapter that only gets 20 if quota is 60 or whatever)

1) tent talk - "don't go to that chapter it's not any good"
2) numbers - could be a great strong chapter but not have noticably close to as many sister as the other sororities on campus. (due to seniors or 1 bad year of recruiting a few years ago or whatever)
3) poor formal recruiting skills
4) or lets face it - it could be bad chapter - I mean we all know that there is a chapter out there that isn't what it should be - (not to say that it can't ever become a good chapter but right now this year it isn't good)

I am not talking about any one university or any one sorority - I am saying that universally the above reasons would be the reasons that a chapter doesn't get quota or close to quota. IMHO

Zillini · #32 08-17-2006, 10:37 AM

This is our 2nd year with the new Release Figure system. As a general statement, we are trying to give it a solid chance and not release more than we're allowed. But the problem we encountered last year, especially after 1st round, was we were told to invite back X number of women and that cut off fell in the middle of a group of PNMs with identical scores.

In this case, how do you fairly decide who to invite back and who not to? So last year we released the entire group. The NPC Release Figure Specialist wasn't happy. I am not sure how we'll handle it this year because every Chapter is being strongly encouraged (meaning practically required) to invite back the full number.

Drolefille · #33 08-17-2006, 10:45 AM

It's even harder when the numbers say "don't release anyone"

Clearly, you don't want EVERYONE, so you release more than recommended.

I think that no matter that numbers and the specialist etc. You have to be willing to say "this is who we want to be our sisters"

33girl · #34 08-17-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Drolefille

It's even harder when the numbers say "don't release anyone"

Clearly, you don't want EVERYONE, so you release more than recommended.

I think that no matter that numbers and the specialist etc. You have to be willing to say "this is who we want to be our sisters"

AMEN.

If Debbie Downer comes to your party and you can tell she's infecting the other rushees, you should be able to give her the heave ho, even if you only have a fraction of the people needed to make quota.

ADqtPiMel · #35 08-17-2006, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Zillini

This is our 2nd year with the new Release Figure system. As a general statement, we are trying to give it a solid chance and not release more than we're allowed. But the problem we encountered last year, especially after 1st round, was we were told to invite back X number of women and that cut off fell in the middle of a group of PNMs with identical scores.

In this case, how do you fairly decide who to invite back and who not to? So last year we released the entire group. The NPC Release Figure Specialist wasn't happy. I am not sure how we'll handle it this year because every Chapter is being strongly encouraged (meaning practically required) to invite back the full number.

That was my chapter's issue with the new release figures as well. We always erred on the side of releasing more girls - why keep them if we know we don't really want them?

ADPi Conniebama · #36 08-20-2006, 12:39 AM

OF course there are the girls that have issues that you might not want in your chapter, that might be over and beyond your release figures, but it seems like if they are "that bad" they would be released 1st then you are talking about releasing maybe someone that is in the middle of your list or whatever - it just seems to me that if you are told to release 100 out of 300 pnm's then just release the 100 why go with 150 when it could hurt you later?

man its late what am i doing up

ADqtPiMel · #37 08-20-2006, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ADPi Conniebama

OF course there are the girls that have issues that you might not want in your chapter, that might be over and beyond your release figures, but it seems like if they are "that bad" they would be released 1st then you are talking about releasing maybe someone that is in the middle of your list or whatever - it just seems to me that if you are told to release 100 out of 300 pnm's then just release the 100 why go with 150 when it could hurt you later?

man its late what am i doing up

We mainly did this after the first rounds of recruitment. Like, say we're recommended to release 300 girls and we decide instead to release 350. Those last 50 girls would have had the lowest scores after second round and would get released eventually anyway, if that makes sense. Cutting more than recommended also worked in our favor because the PNMs see more girls getting cut by us and figure "Oh, they must be good because they are cutting a lot of girls..." It also allieviates the problem of girls cutting us because they don't like the wacko in their rush group who also came back to us.

It's tricky and wouldn't probably be a good idea if your chapter doesn't always make quota.

ADPi Conniebama · #38 08-20-2006, 09:51 AM

which is fine if you are talking about being only 5 or so away from quota but less then half - that might be too high a price to pay - but don't get me wrong i do understand that the pnm's that return to the parties are a recruitment tool in and of themselves but I guess that decision must be made by a pnm to pnm basis or a recruitment to recruitment basis or a chapter by chapter basis -

this has been a good discussion sister - I am looking forward to recruitment - with topics like this, the actual act of recruitment might be easier ha ha