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Old 08-11-2006, 11:30 AM
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This has happened to me twice. In the end, it all worked out: I would have been bored.
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Old 08-11-2006, 12:31 PM
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This has happened to me twice. In the end, it all worked out: I would have been bored.
It happened to me once; I later found out that it was because the job description was very misleading; I would have hated the job itself, even though the description sounded promising.
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:12 PM
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Isn't an employer saying you're "overqualified" the same thing as someone you're dating saying "it's not you it's me," which really means that it IS you and he/she/it is just not that into you?
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Old 08-11-2006, 03:30 PM
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Isn't an employer saying you're "overqualified" the same thing as someone you're dating saying "it's not you it's me," which really means that it IS you and he/she/it is just not that into you?
I was told it meant "We'd hire you for this job, but you'll be bored and leave in two weeks, so it's not worth it," or "We can't pay you enough based on experience, so we won't even bother offering it."
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Old 08-11-2006, 06:02 PM
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"We can't pay you enough based on experience, so we won't even bother offering it."
Wait until mid-life or past and see how frustrating this one is.

Nobody seems to believe that money is not always the driving force.

A lot of people get tired of climbing the corporate ladder, and just want to make enough to be comfortable and be of some use to society.

It is remarkable how much great experience and knowledge is passed over because some boss thinks (s)he or the company can't afford it.

Dumb.
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Old 08-13-2006, 11:58 AM
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Isn't an employer saying you're "overqualified" the same thing as someone you're dating saying "it's not you it's me," which really means that it IS you and he/she/it is just not that into you?
I'm sure that's the case sometimes... (and I like that analogy!)

But....

It could be money too.

In broadcasting.. for instance.. there are market sizes. It's kind of like a pyramid. The NY area is the number one market and conversely.. towns like "North Platte Nebraska" are way down near the bottom of roughly 180 "markets." (regions)

A friend of mine wanted to go from a network TV producing job in NY to a local affiliate in Miami. He had an amazing resume and resume tape (we're talking Emmys).. but none of the news directors would return his call.

He finally got through, and one of the news directors said that people in the Miami area were "afraid" of him because they couldn't pay him near what he was getting in NY. They told him that he was "over-qualified" for the job.

And.. although he was willing to take a cut in salary to make a lifestyle change.. it turned out to be true. The pay was WAY lower than he could possibly afford. He ended up turning it down because his current expenses (a kid in Princeton, etc) wouldn't allow him to do so at this juncture.
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Old 08-15-2006, 09:32 PM
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That happened to me for years as a television director turned production executive with network directing experience.

Finally -- just last night -- I took a job with a new sports network as a director.

I finally convinced someone it was just something I liked, and that I was finished playing the "bigger market" game and just wanted to go back to my roots.

Of course I had to talk them out of trying to make me Manager of Operations. It paid a LOT more -- but I'm pretty tired of HR problems, budgets, etc.

BTW, the last time I checked, there were just over 200 Markets (DMA's) with the largest being New York City and the smallest being Glendive, MT. The smallest I worked in was Columbus, OH (Number 31 at the time) and the largest was New York City. The good thing about the new job is that I get to stay and work here in Denver (Market #18).
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Old 08-15-2006, 10:24 PM
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Congrat's on your new job! Sports director.. !!!

I haven't looked for a job in many years.. love where I am. Thanks for the update on markets.. since being out of local TV, I haven't kept up with them. They're always changing. Glendive, huh? Never heard of it.. but maybe that's why it's the smallest!
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Old 08-16-2006, 09:20 AM
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Thanks. I got curious. There are now 210 TV markets (DMA's = Designated Market Areas).

First and last are still the same.

Here's a link to a list if you're interested:

http://www.nielsenmedia.com/DMAs.html

There have been some pretty notable changes. When I worked there, Detroit was number 5 and dropped to 7. Cleveland was in the top 10 (number 8 I think). Miami was much higher, but Houston, Dallas and Atlanta were in the top 15-20. That pretty clearly shows the migration away from the traditional "rust belt."

The top 4 markets have stayed the same for as long as I can remember.

An interesting statistic from years ago, which I doubt is true anymore, is that there were more people in the Philly TV market than the entire Mountain Time Zone. I suspect, with the growth in the West, that has changed. Denver has moved from market 33 when I first visited here to number 18 now.
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Old 08-18-2006, 01:14 PM
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Finally -- just last night -- I took a job with a new sports network as a director.
DA, congratulations on the new job! That is awesome and I am jealous. If you guys ever want to do a story on Jose Mesa's biggest fan, let me know!!!!!
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:46 PM
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Isn't an employer saying you're "overqualified" the same thing as someone you're dating saying "it's not you it's me," which really means that it IS you and he/she/it is just not that into you?
That's what I'm thinking.
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