We didn't hang that flag, say fraternity/Greenville, NC

[PhrozenGod01]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I recall reading somewhere that some black families in the South do fly the confederate flag as a tribute (for lack of a better word) to the South's history.

I know I'm late on this thread, but work got busy... anyway, I saw a music video ("Bia Bia") by Little Jon, Ludacris, Chyna White, Too Short, etc, where Ludacris is swimming with a confederate flag. Oh yeah, and on the cover of an Outkast cd, there is a belt buckle with that flag on it. Maybe it was a metaphor for something. As far as Black families, I haven't seen it, but then again I haven't been everywhere down south.

[Kevlar281]

Well this is a bit random but worth mentioning. In 2001 when the whole South Carolina Battle Flag controversy was making the national news many Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo Cook-Off teams began flying the Battle Flag as a show of support. Well someone complained and the display of any Confederate Battle Flag at the Rodeo Cook-Off has been subsequently banned. However, this became big news when people realized that a well known, all black team had been using the battle flag as their sites theme for years. I mean they had it on everything, their tent, front, pit, napkins, plates, cups, koozies, aprons, t-shirts, even a brand for their meat. That being said you can still see plenty of other flags with meaning flying high at the cook-off most notably Bonnie Blue and the Come And Take It flag.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by PhrozenGod01

As far as Black families, I haven't seen it, but then again I haven't been everywhere down south.

I have seen it; in fact, I saw a Black man carrying a full-sized Battle Flag down the street just last week. I have no idea why he was carrying it -- he seemed to be walking to his car from somewhere.

Just goes to show how complex an issue this can be.

Originally Posted by Kevlaw281

That being said you can still see plenty of other flags with meaning flying high at the cook-off most notably Bonnie Blue and the Come And Take It flag.

As an aside, and for what's its worth, the Bonnie Blue flag was never an official Confederate flag. It was raised in Mississippi to declare succession. The single star was a symbol of state sovereignty.

The Bonnie Blue Flag originated with the brief Republic of West Florida (comprising territory in parts of what is now Florida, Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana) in the early 1800s, and it influenced the Lone Star flag of Texas and the Bear flag of California (and perhaps the flag of North Carolina as well). The popularity of the flag during the Civil War was largely the result of the song "The Bonnie Blue Flag" ("We Are a Band of Brothers"), written to commemorate the raising of the flag in Jackson when Mississippi succeded.

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

An aside, but as memory serves, this is the only of the 50 state flags that is a pennant.

Give that dog a bone! (Although technically the notch in the fly end makes it a burgee, not a pennant.)

[RU OX Alum]

What do the stars on Ohio's flag mean? Are they for the counties?

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

What do the stars on Ohio's flag mean? Are they for the counties?

According to the official description, "[t]he thirteen stars grouped around the "O" represent the original states of the United States and the four stars added to the peak of the triangle symbolize that Ohio was the seventeenth state admitted to the union."

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by RU OX Alum

What do the stars on Ohio's flag mean? Are they for the counties?

Unless they've changed it since I lived there, Ohio has 88 counties.

I've never liked that flag.

[mccoyred]

I am NOT even going to read all of this thread. I am only going to point out that this is the SAME organization that those lost souls at Howard chartered recently?

[Kevlar281]

Originally Posted by mccoyred

I am NOT even going to read all of this thread. I am only going to point out that this is the SAME organization that those lost souls at Howard chartered recently?

I believe you’re thinking of Pi Kappa Alpha.

[mccoyred]

Originally Posted by Kevlar281

I believe you’re thinking of Pi Kappa Alpha.

Thank you. I stand corrected. Carry on!

[Kevlar281]

Originally Posted by MysticCat81

As an aside, and for what's its worth, the Bonnie Blue flag was never an official Confederate flag.

That being said you can still see plenty of other flags with meaning flying high at the cook-off most notably Bonnie Blue and the Come And Take It flag.

I don’t think in any of my posts I have mentioned anything of the confederacy. The first official flag of Texas was the Burnet flag. It was basically identical to Bonnie Blue except it had a gold star. Due to Bonnie Blue’s popularity many chose to emulate it by having a white star on their Burnet flag. When I see Bonnie Blue I think of states rights. Why you felt the need to “correct” me I'll never know. Especially since the two flags I mentioned were flags of the Texas Revolution. Hence their meaning. And on a side note the Come And Take It flag has a….single star. See a pattern? We won our war and will fly our flags.

/edit: before anyone corrects me I do understand that Bonnie Blue predates the Texas Revolution.

[MysticCat]

Originally Posted by Kevlar281

I don’t think in any of my posts I have mentioned anything of the confederacy.

Sure you did, but you are correct that you never said that the Bonnie Blue flag was a Confederate flag.
My comment was meant as a general one, using your reference to the Bonnie Blue flag simply since it was the most recent one.

Given the general context of this thread is the use (misuse?) of Confederate flags, and given that quite a few people do think of the Bonnie Blue flag as a Confederate flag, and not without reason, it seemed like a clarification worth making. That is all.