Racism: It still does exist

[shinerbock]

Mccoy, poor areas have poor schools. You don't see areas that are chock full of wealthy kids with bad public schools, it just doesnt happen. I don't think it will ever be equal, nor should it be. People who settle in nice areas and take on a high tax burden should be rewarded with excellent schools. Why should the same people, often paying a high local tax for education, also take on the burden of kids in inner cities? Once again, it starts at home. The hearts of these students has to change before education can impact their lives. Likewise, the societies they live in have to stop attempting to pull them away from education. Parents are the key to all of this.

[RedefinedDiva]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Mccoy, poor areas have poor schools. You don't see areas that are chock full of wealthy kids with bad public schools, it just doesnt happen. I don't think it will ever be equal, nor should it be. People who settle in nice areas and take on a high tax burden should be rewarded with excellent schools. Why should the same people, often paying a high local tax for education, also take on the burden of kids in inner cities? Once again, it starts at home. The hearts of these students has to change before education can impact their lives. Likewise, the societies they live in have to stop attempting to pull them away from education. Parents are the key to all of this.

This is one of the most ridiculous things I have heard in a while.

So, just because students are poor and live in poor areas, they shouldn't get quality education? Good education is a REWARD for being rich? Poor kids, who have NO CONTROL over the fact that they and their families are poor, should be doomed to "bad public schools"? Poor kids don't have the "heart" to learn? Likewise, just because a child is poor and may live in a poorer area, they are being pulled away from education?

I am flabbergasted....

[shinerbock]

Welcome to reality. You know why rich kids get good educations? Their parents pay for it. Kids in poor areas get fine educations too, when they work hard. Do you honestly think it is the teachers which lead to the poor education these kids recieve? No, it is their environment. They have few influences telling them that education is valuable, and often their family is among them. So what is it that you propose we do? Take some more money from wealthy families to improve inner city schools?

[mulattogyrl]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Welcome to reality. You know why rich kids get good educations? Their parents pay for it. Kids in poor areas get fine educations too, when they work hard. Do you honestly think it is the teachers which lead to the poor education these kids recieve? No, it is their environment. They have few influences telling them that education is valuable, and often their family is among them. So what is it that you propose we do? Take some more money from wealthy families to improve inner city schools?

What do you propose we do?

[shinerbock]

I think we're on the right track. There is a lot of attention being paid to teacher performance, and that is the correct step. Now, for those schools which have serious problems, like no AC or falling down buildings, absolutely, fix them. However, as I've stated before, the majority of any real change will have to occur within families and inner city society. I know I'll probably get called ignorant for this, but the black community still does not encourage education like white society does. I think that million man march your kid to school thing is a great idea. Rather than admiring Kayne or Lebron or Vick, those kids need to be looking up to successful black businessmen, doctors, lawyers and clergy(not Jackson or Sharpton). I would say politics but I think there are too many politicians left over from the civil rights movement. I'm not saying that these people didnt do good things, but they are all to often in the mindset of blame, rather than fixing the situation. I think the black community needs tough talk to solve their problems, similar to that being done by Bill Cosby and Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson. This applies to all sections of society, blacks, whites, individuals...when the blame is placed on other things, and other people, it requires those people to fix it. If you blame your father for your life, it is difficult to fix your problems without addressing his role in your life. However, if you cast aside blame, you no longer have to deal with the outside factors, and thus have the power to fix it on your own.

[bows&toes]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I think we're on the right track. There is a lot of attention being paid to teacher performance, and that is the correct step. Now, for those schools which have serious problems, like no AC or falling down buildings, absolutely, fix them. However, as I've stated before, the majority of any real change will have to occur within families and inner city society. I know I'll probably get called ignorant for this, but the black community still does not encourage education like white society does. I think that million man march your kid to school thing is a great idea. Rather than admiring Kayne or Lebron or Vick, those kids need to be looking up to successful black businessmen, doctors, lawyers and clergy(not Jackson or Sharpton). I would say politics but I think there are too many politicians left over from the civil rights movement. I'm not saying that these people didnt do good things, but they are all to often in the mindset of blame, rather than fixing the situation. I think the black community needs tough talk to solve their problems, similar to that being done by Bill Cosby and Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson. This applies to all sections of society, blacks, whites, individuals...when the blame is placed on other things, and other people, it requires those people to fix it. If you blame your father for your life, it is difficult to fix your problems without addressing his role in your life. However, if you cast aside blame, you no longer have to deal with the outside factors, and thus have the power to fix it on your own.

I couldn't have said it better myself.

[starang21]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I think we're on the right track. There is a lot of attention being paid to teacher performance, and that is the correct step. Now, for those schools which have serious problems, like no AC or falling down buildings, absolutely, fix them. However, as I've stated before, the majority of any real change will have to occur within families and inner city society. I know I'll probably get called ignorant for this, but the black community still does not encourage education like white society does. I think that million man march your kid to school thing is a great idea. Rather than admiring Kayne or Lebron or Vick, those kids need to be looking up to successful black businessmen, doctors, lawyers and clergy(not Jackson or Sharpton). I would say politics but I think there are too many politicians left over from the civil rights movement. I'm not saying that these people didnt do good things, but they are all to often in the mindset of blame, rather than fixing the situation. I think the black community needs tough talk to solve their problems, similar to that being done by Bill Cosby and Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson. This applies to all sections of society, blacks, whites, individuals...when the blame is placed on other things, and other people, it requires those people to fix it. If you blame your father for your life, it is difficult to fix your problems without addressing his role in your life. However, if you cast aside blame, you no longer have to deal with the outside factors, and thus have the power to fix it on your own.

well golly gee willikers, smartacus....if that wasn't already being done, i might actually commend you for stating the obvious.

[shinerbock]

Starang, sure it is. I'm not seeing any new leadership rising up with this message. But I expected a response like that from you, seeing as you probably clench up at the idea that the white community may not be to blame for everything wrong in the black community. But yeah, I'm sure its being done. After all, none of the organizations who speak for the black community are still holding on to such views...well besides the NAACP, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson...

But then again I'm white, I probably just wrote the above post to ridicule and hold down black people everywhere...

[mulattogyrl]

Originally Posted by starang21

well golly gee willikers, smartacus....if that wasn't already being done, i might actually commend you for stating the obvious.

LOL @ smartacus - you and these words!