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08-06-2006, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by starang21
you left out the fact that white women are the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action, twit.
so without it, there's a very strong chance you would still be a barefoot, pregnant, uneducated example of trailer trash.
(i left out ignorant because the jury is still out on that)
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actually in a study done in 2004 by the princeton review, African-American applicants usually receive over a 200 point advantage (230 to be exact) on their SAT's. women were not listed as getting any advantage.
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08-06-2006, 10:17 PM
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pinkies - i live in memphis and i know that you live in a state with the best school holiday. Robert E. Lee's birthday, and before all yall call me racist, bigot, or something else. Robert E. Lee didnt fight for the south because of slavery, he fought for the confederacy because of his great pride in his home state.
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08-06-2006, 10:23 PM
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pinkies - i live in memphis and i know that you live in a state with the best school holiday. Robert E. Lee's birthday, and before all yall call me racist, bigot, or something else. Robert E. Lee didnt fight for the south because of slavery, he fought for the confederacy because of his great pride in his home state.
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^^^ waves a confederate flag and believes in slavery
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08-06-2006, 10:31 PM
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^^^ waves a confederate flag and believes in slavery
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haha...just what i was saying yall were going to say. yall are just as racist as well
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08-06-2006, 10:23 PM
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actually in a study done in 2004 by the princeton review, African-American applicants usually receive over a 200 point advantage (230 to be exact) on their SAT's. women were not listed as getting any advantage.
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look at the history of affirmative action and what it's done for white women.
affirmative action was designed to help women and minorities
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...irm/affirm.htm
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Born of the civil rights movement three decades ago, affirmative action calls for minorities and women to be given special consideration in employment, education and contracting decisions.
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During the past two decades, white women and persons of color have experienced enrollment gains, increased undergraduate and graduate degree attainment, and made gains in faculty and administrative employment.
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In 1967, Johnson expanded the Executive Order to include affirmative action requirements to benefit women.
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white women are the largest minority group in the country.
do me a favor and get educated.
thanks.
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08-06-2006, 10:30 PM
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hmm... it was susposed to be founded on those premises but does it actually. i think the princeton review is usually a good unbiased opinion on how things are on college campuses. plus they are princeton they are alot more "educated" up there and more liberal which should have helped your case but didnt. finally whats wrong with the best person getting into school. if an african american got into school over me with better scores, more power to him but if i had better scores and he gets in over me or anybody else with better scores now thats a bunch of bull
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08-06-2006, 10:33 PM
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hmm... it was susposed to be founded on those premises but does it actually. i think the princeton review is usually a good unbiased opinion on how things are on college campuses. plus they are princeton they are alot more "educated" up there and more liberal which should have helped your case but didnt. finally whats wrong with the best person getting into school. if an african american got into school over me with better scores, more power to him but if i had better scores and he gets in over me or anybody else with better scores now thats a bunch of bull
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uhh, a study in 2004 doesn't erase the precedent of the past 40 plus years. quit shooting from the hip and use some sound logic and grammar.
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08-06-2006, 10:35 PM
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women really have a hard time getting in school - most schools are a majority women anyways
do me a favor and get educated
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08-06-2006, 10:41 PM
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women really have a hard time getting in school - most schools are a majority women anyways
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you're shooting from the hip, twit.
do better.
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08-07-2006, 12:49 AM
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shooting from the hip ok well here it goes.
do you think that AA is something that yall sould be proud of and that you tout around like it is helping liberate people. it doesnt aa catches more flack because it hasnt accomplished what it set out to do. It creates racial discrimination that demeans certain groups of minorities because it shows that they can not and do not emphasize education. Also, AA just makes colleges and universities set quotas and standards for the number of minority students they accept and actually it can breed more racism in some cases. I mean do you think that places where the best and brightest people are suspossed to be educated should accept a person who might not have the best scores but had the skin tone of a race they need to make their university more diverse. Colleges in the united states should accept people based on the basis of their gpa and test scores and not give one rats a$$ about what color their skin should be.
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08-07-2006, 12:53 AM
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Affirmative Action is not a just program, nor does it fulfill its original intention.
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08-07-2006, 08:55 AM
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shooting from the hip ok well here it goes.
do you think that AA is something that yall sould be proud of and that you tout around like it is helping liberate people. it doesnt aa catches more flack because it hasnt accomplished what it set out to do. It creates racial discrimination that demeans certain groups of minorities because it shows that they can not and do not emphasize education. Also, AA just makes colleges and universities set quotas and standards for the number of minority students they accept and actually it can breed more racism in some cases. I mean do you think that places where the best and brightest people are suspossed to be educated should accept a person who might not have the best scores but had the skin tone of a race they need to make their university more diverse. Colleges in the united states should accept people based on the basis of their gpa and test scores and not give one rats a$$ about what color their skin should be.
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shut up, and quit shooting from the hip, twit.
you're looking at affirmative action from a white person's standpoint. but i guess it makes sense, because you (much like many of the other posters on this site) do only see things from your point of view and not anyone else's. close-minded and quite ignorant.
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08-08-2006, 04:36 AM
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I agree
I agree with you about Affirmative Action policies. I believe that if a college applicant meets the requirements of the college they are applying to then they should be accepted without regards to their skin color. I also believe that Affirmative Action does a disservice to the black students who the standards are lowered for because they may not be able to do college level work and it ignores the problem of why their grades are not up to par and prevents people from focusing on that.And to other posters who talked about racism still existing,yes it does but it does not prevent black people from achieving,we can succeed despite the racism and should focus on that instead of trying to eradicate all forms of racism (i know i'm getting off topic).Black people have succeeded in the past in the face of more overt and dangerous racism so there is no reason black people today cant.
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shooting from the hip ok well here it goes.
do you think that AA is something that yall sould be proud of and that you tout around like it is helping liberate people. it doesnt aa catches more flack because it hasnt accomplished what it set out to do. It creates racial discrimination that demeans certain groups of minorities because it shows that they can not and do not emphasize education. Also, AA just makes colleges and universities set quotas and standards for the number of minority students they accept and actually it can breed more racism in some cases. I mean do you think that places where the best and brightest people are suspossed to be educated should accept a person who might not have the best scores but had the skin tone of a race they need to make their university more diverse. Colleges in the united states should accept people based on the basis of their gpa and test scores and not give one rats a$$ about what color their skin should be.
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08-08-2006, 07:57 AM
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I also believe that Affirmative Action does a disservice to the black students who the standards are lowered for because they may not be able to do college level work and it ignores the problem of why their grades are not up to par and prevents people from focusing on that.
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Some of y'all need to look into what affirmative action actually does.
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08-09-2006, 12:11 PM
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I also believe that Affirmative Action does a disservice to the black students who the standards are lowered for because they may not be able to do college level work and it ignores the problem of why their grades are not up to par and prevents people from focusing on that. And to other posters who talked about racism still existing,yes it does but it does not prevent black people from achieving,we can succeed despite the racism and should focus on that instead of trying to eradicate all forms of racism (i know i'm getting off topic).Black people have succeeded in the past in the face of more overt and dangerous racism so there is no reason black people today cant.
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Interesting point of view.
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