Does your HQ *really* want to know about hazing?

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by 33girl

I meant little kids NOW, silly.

AhHa!

I understand now what you are saying, and agree completely.

I hope they finally got rid of those big containers of water and stale crackers that used to be in the fallout shelters, too.

I have to admit that watching news reports with folks in Israel running into shelters brought back some bad memories.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

AhHa!

I understand now what you are saying, and agree completely.

I hope they finally got rid of those big containers of water and stale crackers that used to be in the fallout shelters, too.

I have to admit that watching news reports with folks in Israel running into shelters brought back some bad memories.

To be fair though, that whole "duck and cover" thing was just to make people feel better. I watched a video in my history class from the time, and they had kids ducking under raincoats in gutters. Everyone was going to be blown to little glowing bits anyway.


/Magic lead-lined raincoats of steel?

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

To be fair though, that whole "duck and cover" thing was just to make people feel better.

I agree. It may have made the parents feel better, but it was scary as hell for a lot of the kids.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

I agree. It may have made the parents feel better, but it was scary as hell for a lot of the kids.

I think it's interesting that those same air raid/missle sirens are now Tornado sirens (at least in this part of the country) I get weirded out in St. Louis where their sirens are electronic and can broadcast voice messages.

[DeltAlum]

Originally Posted by Drolefille

I think it's interesting that those same air raid/missle sirens are now Tornado sirens (at least in this part of the country) I get weirded out in St. Louis where their sirens are electronic and can broadcast voice messages.

I was thinking about "Air Raid Sirens" while I was posting earlier. They could scare the heck out of a person if they didn't realize that it was noon on Friday when they were always tested when I was growing up.

As for the electronic voice, when I'm inside, I can understand it about as well as the electronic voice in the train at the Atlanta airport -- or a bus driver.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

I was thinking about "Air Raid Sirens" while I was posting earlier. They could scare the heck out of a person if they didn't realize that it was noon on Friday when they were always tested when I was growing up.

As for the electronic voice, when I'm inside, I can understand it about as well as the electronic voice in the train at the Atlanta airport -- or a bus driver.

Yeah, I never even heard the sirens inside a classroom, thus proving how safe I was while at SLU. Even outside you can't understand because they overlap as they echo and go off throughout the city.

I have pretty good siren-radar so to speak. It can be 3 in the morning at home and I'll be fast asleep but sirens go off and BAM I'm up. I consider it a good survival technique for Central Illinois.

[Tom Earp]

Not to pull away from this topic?

But, in the LXA Cross and Creseant concerning R M, there were 23 three Chapters or Colonies that were Censored, Suspened, or Closed.

One being Mu, The University of Cal.

It has come down to a true fact-Insurance, economics and public relations with either the City/Town or College.

[shinerbock]

I imagine by the time my kids go to college, fraternities will simply be clubs. They'll probably meet for chapter at a classroom on campus, hold hands, talk about brotherhood, and go home. Seems to be going that way.

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by DeltAlum

AhHa!

I understand now what you are saying, and agree completely.

I hope they finally got rid of those big containers of water and stale crackers that used to be in the fallout shelters, too.

I have to admit that watching news reports with folks in Israel running into shelters brought back some bad memories.

Believe it or not just a few months ago a whole shelter was found under one the the East River Bridges in NYC. And the stuff was still sealed......

[Elephant Walk]

I imagine by the time my kids go to college, fraternities will simply be clubs. They'll probably meet for chapter at a classroom on campus, hold hands, talk about brotherhood, and go home. Seems to be going that way.

I do consider us to be the final fratty generation. It's too bad.

[agzg]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I do consider us to be the final fratty generation. It's too bad.

I don't think so. You guys might be from the south, where hazing is a little more... well, more. But In the north, we're sometimes just as frat-tastic without the hazing. It's almost like Miller lite - great taste, less filling, and so on.

I was "hazed." Not as bad as my chapter used to haze, but still. My chapter, while I was there, put an end to the hazing, partly because of internal pressures but more because of pressure from our IHQ. It's been interesting, seeing the difference from my class to the newest classes, where you can see the different degrees of hazing. The newer girls seem to respect each other more. When I was initiated, I didn't respect the girls I was initiated with nor did I respect those that initiated me. So how does hazing create respect? It's all a show - when I showed respect to older sisters, I was secretly envisioning myself punching them in the face. It's not just "a walk in the park," there still is a lot of personal responsibility. Even more so.

Used to be, if a new member didn't meet responsibilities, they'd be punished. Now, if a new member doesn't meet responsibilities, her membership will be reviewed and if it's bad enough, revoked. I'd 100% rather deal with a punishment than be KICKED OUT. A punishment is like... 4 extra hours a week of study tables or something... not being removed from the chapter completely. Or facing other punishments that chapter members get, like losing social privileges. That, I think, is more of an encouragement to get your stuff done than being hazed is.