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Old 08-01-2006, 11:35 PM
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to me, Ortiz's the best in the A.L. in clutch hitting.

Prove it.





Seriously though -it's not so much that 'clutch' doesn't exist, it's just that there's no way to measure it or quantify it (that we know of, anyway).

Ortiz has come through a ton in the clutch - trust me, no one knows more than me - but you only remember the good, never remember the bad, so selection bias ahoy. Plus, how much better is 11 times than 5 times? The sample size is impossible . . . there's no way to really know for sure.

Ortiz is sick - but we can't really show 'clutch' to know either way, other than just seeing it and going "Holy God, he did it again!"
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Old 08-02-2006, 07:29 AM
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Ortiz has come through a ton in the clutch - trust me, no one knows more than me - but you only remember the good, never remember the bad, so selection bias ahoy. Plus, how much better is 11 times than 5 times? The sample size is impossible . . . there's no way to really know for sure.

Ortiz is sick - but we can't really show 'clutch' to know either way, other than just seeing it and going "Holy God, he did it again!"
Exactly - look at Jeter's numbers in the past two playoff series against the Red Sox, both ALCS, and people still talk about the "clutch." Not to say he hasn't had some big hits and big plays, but the mind plays tricks on you.

Where people get into trouble is when they want to ignore all other stats for awards, and focus on "clutch," like in last year's MVP race, or in the 91 race when Terry Pendleton won. It's like when they base the Cy Young award on wins alone.
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Old 08-02-2006, 09:02 AM
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Ortiz is sick - but we can't really show 'clutch' to know either way, other than just seeing it and going "Holy God, he did it again!"
Now go home and get some ass!
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Old 08-02-2006, 11:41 AM
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Now go home and get some ass!
mango. salsa.
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:49 PM
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If this was 2003, the Lopez trade would be great for Boston. The big question that will need to be answered..... will there be room for two players named Javy Lopez in the clubhouse down the stretch?
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:58 PM
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If the Braves let Jones go to the Cubs, I'm gonna firebomb something.
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:02 PM
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If the Braves let Jones go to the Cubs, I'm gonna firebomb something.
Yeah, plus the cubs don't have much to give back in return.
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Old 08-04-2006, 11:03 PM
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Yeah, Zambrano, and I don't want him.
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Old 09-07-2006, 03:06 PM
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Yo yo yo yo yo wassup?

Who's gonna win it all this year?


Tiguh Tiguh Tiguh Woods yall!!!
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Old 09-16-2006, 04:57 AM
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4 games. 34 hours. What a weekend this is going to be for NY/Boston Baseball fans...

Add in two good football match-ups on Sunday (even though I can't stand football, it's Jets-Pats & Giants-Eagles) and it's an all sport weekend for NYers!
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Old 09-16-2006, 09:21 AM
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4 games. 34 hours. What a weekend this is going to be for NY/Boston Baseball fans...

Add in two good football match-ups on Sunday (even though I can't stand football, it's Jets-Pats & Giants-Eagles) and it's an all sport weekend for NYers!
I'm looking for my Mets to secure the NL East title tonight... and I am hoping for a Subway Series this year!
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:47 AM
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I'm looking for my Mets to secure the NL East title tonight... and I am hoping for a Subway Series this year!
Your not the only one who is hoping for another Subway Series..and a repeat of the result form the last one, of course
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Old 09-16-2006, 10:19 PM
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WTF! The Mets just can't do $#!T against left-handed pitchers! Looks like they'll have to clinch it another day...
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Old 09-16-2006, 11:47 PM
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[COLOR="DarkOrchid"]4 games. 34 hours. What a weekend this is going to be for NY/Boston Baseball fans...
I wish I could see the games here in DC. mlb.com is simply not enough.

Let's Go YANKEES!
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Old 09-17-2006, 09:15 AM
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I wish I could see the games here in DC. mlb.com is simply not enough.

Let's Go YANKEES!
I'm with you there (except for the "Let's go Yankees" part )! Last night I was so mad that I couldn't even go to a sports bar to watch baseball because of college football. Sometimes it sucks living in NC State/UNC/Duke country, and not giving a damn about any of the schools! Won't be able to watch it today either, because of NFL football (but at least I'll watch that).

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