What happened to my thread about fraternities?

[Akkus]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I wouldnt know. However, in my experience, the houses which make a big deal out of not hazing, generally suck. But like I said, I don't know how it is in CA.

But what do you exactly mean by hazing? I am fine with anything as long as it doesn't harm me physically. I don't mind wearing weird clothes, cleaning bathroom....etc.

[shinerbock]

Listen, despite what people on here would have you believe, most hazing doesnt involve you getting hit. It may involve you working hard, breaking a sweat doing yard work, etc...The most physical things our pledges did was conditioning for football. I mean, its tough, but it has a point.

[Akkus]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Listen, despite what people on here would have you believe, most hazing doesnt involve you getting hit. It may involve you working hard, breaking a sweat doing yard work, etc...The most physical things our pledges did was conditioning for football. I mean, its tough, but it has a point.

I'm fine with all that. There are a lot of stories about hazing but most of those stories don't have a basis i think.

[sdbeta1]

Other types of hazing would depend on how much drinking you want and are willing to do. From my experience at San Diego, the hazing meant drinking a lot having to wake up early to clean the brothers beach houses, getting smoked out, and taking care of personal favors from the brothers. There are houses that make a big deal out of hazing, and there are others who won't tolerate hazing but it doesn't mean that they suck. Most likely, there was an event in the past that forced the issue and strong anti-hazing sentiment

[shinerbock]

I have never seen the whole "you have to drink this much" thing. I think most situations like that are fun, and you're just chugging beer or something. Its not like you having to stop means getting kicked out or being punished. Most likely it'll result in brothers going "ohhhhhh, we've got a lightweight!" Personal favors are very true, and its fine. Thats pledgeship, lots of tasks and errands. My reason for saying the anti-hazing houses suck, is because they have in my experience. Now there is a difference between houses who make light of hazing "oh its really not bad, we have a national policy," and the houses who make it their main issue "we here at _____ feel hazing degrades the pledge and we never do it." The latter tend to be fraternities desperate for pledges, and the kind who long for strict anti-hazing don't tend to be the guys I'd want. If a guy's number one concern is joining a group that doesnt haze at all, I wouldnt want them in my fraternity. Plus, the guy my fraternity preferred were the ones who knew what they were getting into, new the traditional nature of fraternities, and desired to be a part of that. Guys who are like that generally know what happens during pledgeship to a degree and want to go through it, and those are the guys I would want.

[Akkus]

Originally Posted by sdbeta1

Other types of hazing would depend on how much drinking you want and are willing to do. From my experience at San Diego, the hazing meant drinking a lot having to wake up early to clean the brothers beach houses, getting smoked out, and taking care of personal favors from the brothers. There are houses that make a big deal out of hazing, and there are others who won't tolerate hazing but it doesn't mean that they suck. Most likely, there was an event in the past that forced the issue and strong anti-hazing sentiment

Oh cool. How long does it take? I mean for how long would i need to clean the brothers beach houses? Like everyday for a week or so?

[sdbeta1]

The mornings after any big parties, usually on the weekends until you get initiated. The whole drinking scene I was describing was more like being given a handle or expecting a pledge to drink when you tell him to. There are houses who assure new members that they will not be hazed, i.e., being beaten, forced to drink large amounts of alcohol, or partake in degrading activities.

[Akkus]

I bet a lot of rushees end up having no bids.