Should the system of Quota be changed? A look at the Nebraska system

[carnation]

I've heard this about the University of Texas... is it true that even the first round there is invitational?

[dgdramadawg]

Originally Posted by carnation

I've heard this about the University of Texas... is it true that even the first round there is invitational?

I've certainly heard of chapters coming up with the list of cuts for round 2 before round 1 (based on GPA usually), but I've never heard of schools really DOING the cuts before round 1!! I wonder how many campuses do this.

[NUBlue&Blue]

I don't know how long they've been doing this, because we went to all the houses for 15 minutes, I think. It was 14, then 6, then 3, then bid day.

As I've said, it was a long time ago...in a galaxy far, far away!

BTW, we had 32 in our pledge class. Don't know if that was big or small. I know of another who only had 28, but the funny thing is, I do remember that quite a few "about to be seniors" got married the summer before I pledged. Maybe that's why there was room!

BigRedBeta, what do you know about the Lincoln girls and how it affects total? I was never very clear on that.

And....most important question...do they still have the Beta-Kappa ring?

[BigRedBeta]

Originally Posted by NUBlue&Blue

I don't know how long they've been doing this, because we went to all the houses for 15 minutes, I think. It was 14, then 6, then 3, then bid day.

As I've said, it was a long time ago...in a galaxy far, far away!

BTW, we had 32 in our pledge class. Don't know if that was big or small. I know of another who only had 28, but the funny thing is, I do remember that quite a few "about to be seniors" got married the summer before I pledged. Maybe that's why there was room!

BigRedBeta, what do you know about the Lincoln girls and how it affects total? I was never very clear on that.

And....most important question...do they still have the Beta-Kappa ring?

They go 8, 5, 3, bid day nowadays.

As for Lincoln girls, I'm not sure how that affects total. As I've pieced together information from various alums and such, I know that at one time if you were a Lincoln kid (guy or girl) then you typically were unable to live in the chapter house. Some chapters (AZD I know for sure) still have a specific room dedicated to "lincoln girls" but most of the use actually came from seniors who had chosen to live out of the house in an apartment on their own. I'm not sure when the change came about, but like I said, I've certainly heard of lincolnites not being able to live in the chapter houses, which is definitely not the case these days. Given that, I don't think that Lincoln girls have any sort of special impact on the numbers.

Now as for this Beta-Kappa Ring, I'm certainly intrigued, but I have no clue what you are talking about. My guess is that this is one tradition that got lost either during the period from 88 - 94 in which our chapter basically became the antithesis of what we had always been, or during the 95-98 period in which we were reorganizing (went from 88 members in fall 95 to 13 in spring 96 after the alumni cleaned house). There was definitely a time in which most sororities wouldn't hang out with us (which has of course changed). And while I have many friends in Kappa (and one of my pledge brothers pinned a Kappa) I don't think we are as close with Kappa as we are with some other houses...which is unfortunate...

[FSUZeta]

beta, do you know after which round quota is set?

[NUBlue&Blue]

So sad about the Beta-Kappa ring....it was very old, some of the girls in my chapter had mothers who'd worn the Beta-Kappa ring.

At one time (I don't really know when) a lot of Kappas and Betas were couples. There was a sterling silver ring with the two crests on it, and the most recently pinned couple had it until the next Beta-Kappa combo was pinned, then they passed it on...and so on and so on. Wonder which Kappa kept it?

We only had a couple of Beta-Kappa pairs when I was in school, because of location girls in our house tended to date Sig Eps or Sig Alphs. My husband was a TKE, but of course they are gone from Nebraska as well. They were Phi chapter, but had periods throughout their history where they were on and off campus, so when they started to have problems with numbers there were no alums of a certain age in a financial position to help. When we were in school they were a huge house, won intramurals every year, had guys on homecoming every year and lived in two houses and an annex (their houses were the two across the courtyard from each other right next door to the KD and DG houses, and their annex was located in what is now a parking lot near the AXD house).

Lincoln girls were counted differently, I think, so you could take more people if you had more Lincoln girls. They could only live in the house one semester of their college career. We didn't have a Lincoln girls room, although I know that was pretty common. We HAD to live in the house, no other options, unless you got married. Period. Soph, Jr., Sr. If you were an academic redshirt (5th yr) then you got to live in an apartment if there was no room in the house.

[irishpipes]

Originally Posted by NUBlue&Blue

Lincoln girls were counted differently, I think, so you could take more people if you had more Lincoln girls. They could only live in the house one semester of their college career.

I wonder if they could really still do that - tell girls that because of their hometown, they had different housing options than the other members. I would think in this day and age that would be looked at as discrimination.

[BigRedBeta]

That is really sad...especially b/c my pledge brother and his girlfriend could have it right now...but i guess considering how few beta/kappa couples there have been in my time, I guess those sorts of traditions get lost. I wonder where it is.