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Old 07-29-2006, 05:37 PM
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Just because a multi cultural group has no value to me, doesn't mean it is without value to others.
I would challenge you to take it a step further and say that multicultural groups are valuable because people like me find value in them. I would say that your fraternity is valuable because of your investment in it, even though I personally have no connection to it. I would also say this for any organization whose purpose is honorable, so I wouldn't include supremacist (of any color) orgs or any other org motivated by negative values.

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My problem arises from people who try to force their opinions on others. Of course, its fine here, this is a message board, and I enjoy the debate. But there is a strong push from society to diversify everything, and that annoys me.
You know, I agree with you. I'm seeing that "diversifying America" is really just a ploy to make us all the same. No one needs that. We can be individuals and we can prefer to be with others like us while still expressing the inherent value in people unlike us.

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For my purposes, the minorities I speak of are black people and hispanics.
When I see this, I associate the comment with Southern bigotry. You're not talking about individuals whom you don't like for whatever reason. You're placing everyone into the same category. Why?

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Also, Jeni, the values you listed are generally part of being "classy," at least in my mind. I would not want to live in a neighborhood of untrustworthy people, regardless of their wealth.
Sounds good to me! I know of many families living with incomes below the poverty line that consist of upstanding and generous individuals. Even though they have little, they would give you much if you were in need. I also know of devastatingly wealthy people who have such a heart for charitable giving that they make sacrifices in their personal desires so that others can reap the benefits. I would be pleased to live alongside either type of family.
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Old 07-29-2006, 05:49 PM
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I don't think it is southern bigotry at all, it just happens to be the minority groups I'm speaking of. I'm not painting the entire groups, those are simply the groups around here, at the center of my concern.

Also, I will refrain from calling anything valuable. Just because certain things are valuable to some people, does not mean I consider them valuable. The National Organization of Women is valuable to some, but I personally hate them and have no value for it. The Yankees are valuable to many, but I place no value at all on them.
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Old 07-29-2006, 06:15 PM
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It's weird and ironic, but with the exception of the things you've said about wealth/privilege/class, you come across kinda like the people living in rural Pennsylvania ("I'm not racist, but these minorities are moving in. They're bringing the crime from the city and lowering our property values." "I'm not racist. I have a couple neighbors who are black and they're fine. It's just that they've got friends coming here the city to hang out, and these friends make a lot of noise and cause trouble.")

Rural PA has some of the largest concentrations of KKK in the country. Many of these small rural towns in PA have been all white for many, many generations. A lot of the growing membership is due to limited economic opportunities in the rural areas and minorities are starting to move in. The minorities are seen as taking away these already limited number of jobs. And I think there's a lot of fear and resentment for this, as well as a want for a scapegoat for the economic problems of the area.
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Old 07-29-2006, 06:18 PM
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Well, if I sound like them, then so be it. Although, minorities are not taking our jobs.
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