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[IASKTHEQUESTION]

Quote: I put GOD as in my lord and savior JESUS CHRIST first,because without him all things are impossible.Alot of people say that,but they say it just to put on a front....I MEAN IT WHEN I SAY IT.

Anybody that put their organization before GOD,family,their job,and school(if applicable),then they're going about everything the wrong way,and it'll catch up to them(it usually does). I don't put Masonry or any other organization that I want to be apart of before GOD,Family,school,and work...NO WAY.

Masonry and GLO's don't serve a god within the organization,you should know that "Beverysure"...you were an Omega,remember?? Well in my eyes,once one always one.


P.S.,whoever made that webiste need to do their research.For instance,they said "Freemasonry has been around for over 300 years,"..........HUH?!
First of all,there's two types of Masonry;Speculative(or Honorary-which is who we are [modern]) and Operative Masonry(ancient).Operative Masons were the original masons who actually built temples,bridges,etc.. waaaay back in the day;Operative (or stone)Masons go back to egypt times,but speculative masonry go back to the 1600's.............go do your research.


I'mma tell you right now "Beverysure",you'll reck your brain trying to figure Masonry out;talking to ex-masons aint gonna do it for you,brother...
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Even if you say you don't serve other God's in the organization (I'll give you that right now) you do have to take an oath (pledge) to enter into the organization which is strictly forbodden in the bible. If you are saved (which I believe you are) the only brotherhood you need is the BODY of CHRIST, it does say so many times in the bible that we are indeed brethren, so I'm just curious to know, what does the Masons give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?

[PHA_luv]

IASKTHE QUESTION: "the only brotherhood you need is the BODY of CHRIST, it does say so many times in the bible that we are indeed brethren, so I'm just curious to know, what does the Masons give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?"

I don't think that anyone that is in an organization is saying that they need these organizations to survive. Many of us achieved before we became XYZ and we will continue to grow and prosper with or without XYZ because that is the type of persons that we are.

The oaths that we are taking are not to the extreme that we are saying that we are devoting our souls to a body out side of Christ. Most organized organizations have a oath or mission that they follow to keep the ideals of their organizations on track. For example when you become barred as a lawyer you have to take a professional oath, I do believe preachers have to take a form of oath. These oaths don't mean that we worship a false prophet or anything of the such.

Masonry, OES, BGLO's are another venue for many people can come together without regard to your exact denomination where they otherwise would not, and participate in community service for the good of their surrounding communities.

Yes there are chapters in all of our organizations that fall out of line with what our chapters are all about, but when looking at our organizations look deeper. Look at how much positivity we inject into this world, in comparison to the negative issues that may have heard about. I truely believe the good out weighs the bad.

[beverysure]

I never took an oath to become a preacher. When God calls you ...you just start preaching.

[Visionary22]

Originally Posted by beverysure

I never took an oath to become a preacher. When God calls you ...you just start preaching.

This made me chuckle.

[BlessedOne04]

Originally Posted by beverysure

I never took an oath to become a preacher. When God calls you ...you just start preaching.

Thats bogus!! There is more to it than that. Maybe you are missing something if you think it just that simple.

[PHA_luv]

I thought that you had to go through training and basically be taught by someone who has been a preacher before, and take an oath I didn't know that someone could just become a preacher all of a sudden.

But whatever the situation the point was lost and/or shifted from the point that I am making. There are so many organizations out there that are meant to better and help people. We may fall short in some areas and there is no way that we can please everyone, but if so much good is coming from these organizations, why do people try to condemn us?

I support other organizations that are out there busting their butts and pockets to help others that can't help themselves. My other question is what types of community service and aid are those that are against masonic & BGLO's do on their own?

Not to avoid the question of IASKTHEQUESTION, but honestly the way that many of our organizations are, responding to your questions about exactly how our organizations are bible based, would be divulging of information that we are unable to do. I didn't want you to think that we were ignoring your question though.

Back to the topic at hand of sisters and brothers communicating their chapters, stations, & activities.

Love you all!

[IOTA-4A'88F]

Originally Posted by IASKTHEQUESTION

Even if you say you don't serve other God's in the organization (I'll give you that right now) you do have to take an oath (pledge) to enter into the organization which is strictly forbodden in the bible. If you are saved (which I believe you are) the only brotherhood you need is the BODY of CHRIST, it does say so many times in the bible that we are indeed brethren, so I'm just curious to know, what does the Masons give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?

I have been reading what many of you written, some I had to shake my head in disbelief, but this is one I had to comment on.... I am having problems with the term "it does say so many times in the bible" or "strictly forbidden in the bible" The Bible is a book of FAITH, it is not the absolute truth the ONE AND ONLY TRUTH. NO BOOK WRITTEN REVEALS AN ABSOLUTE TRUTH. The BIBLE is a book created by MAN and we all know man has flaws. MAN's interpretation of what ANOTHER MAN thinks what GOD said written down by yet ANOTHER MAN and in english of all languages. A lost in translation type of feel. THE ONE AND ONLY TRUTH IS YOUR PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD. Each persons relationship is different.

If a person chooses to affiliate themselves with an XYZ or Masonic organization and also love's his/her GOD. We as children of GOD should not question it. The Bible, Torah, Qu'ran, Piby, etc. are great and spiritually powerful books of faith, but, there is ONLY ONE place where the ABSOLUTE TRUTH is written and that is in your HEART; guess what...only GOD can read it.

I rarely like answering a question with a question but with this one, I will

"what does the Masons give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?"

-What does joining a church give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?
-What does joining groups within the church (choir, etc) give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?
-What does going on church functions give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?
-What does listening to Gospel give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?
-What does falling in love or getting married give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?



Peace, blessings and understanding of self in relationship to GOD to everyone.