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[DeltAlum]

If breaking away from a national organization has more upside to a chapter than down...what the heck, they should do it.

They should really go into the process with their eyes wide open -- including the costs (insurance is only a part) and relationships (personal, historical and financial) with their alumni.

Nothing is ever as easy as it seems on the surface though, so I hope a chapter would do a hard study before taking action that could be regretted later.

If there really is benefit, though...why not? Tradition, fraternal oath and brotherhood aside -- which are just some of the reasons that I couldn't even consider it.

[shinerbock]

Well, in actuality, it would be to preserve tradition. We're not the ones moving away from the fraternity's history, thats what HQ is doing.

[Drolefille]

Yes but if you break away from HQ, they're going to be considered the REAL XYZ and you're going to have to change your letters and ritual etc. Those things are copyrighted.

[Elephant Walk]

You're discussing minor details...Sigma Chi Order... that would work, it honestly doesn't matter..

As for discussing it: there's no real discussion. There are no Sigma Chi chapters threatening to break away from Headquarters. If someone comes on here and gives information about my fraternity that I know to be wrong, I will refute it.

I repeat, yes there is. They aren't going to threaten it openly but I have talked to many Sigma Chi's from approximately 4 to 5 major campuses who have discussed a break away. It will not happen soon, but there are definitely chapters that have looked at it. Just because your chapter isn't up to date on the happenings of the bigger, wealthier, traditional chapter doesn't mean it's not happening. And I'm not even a Sigma Chi! I have heard the same rumblings from KA and SAE, but not much from my own Kappa Sig.

These southern breakaways are looking to preserve the fraternity, whereas the National HQ is looking to destroy it. It is only logical to breakaway from the HQ.

[TSteven]

Originally Posted by Elephant Walk

I repeat, yes there is. They aren't going to threaten it openly but I have talked to many Sigma Chi's from approximately 4 to 5 major campuses who have discussed a break away. It will not happen soon, but there are definitely chapters that have looked at it. Just because your chapter isn't up to date on the happenings of the bigger, wealthier, traditional chapter doesn't mean it's not happening. And I'm not even a Sigma Chi! I have heard the same rumblings from KA and SAE, but not much from my own Kappa Sig.

I have no doubt that you - and the general you when applicable - may have heard talk about a possible break from/by some people. But again, what you heard: "It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."

As you noted, you are not a Sig, you are not a KA and you are not an SAE. So why are you so concerned about what is going on in those fraternities' chapters? And on a side note, when in the hell do you find time to have all these discussions with Greeks from other fraternities that are not on your campus? ("I have talked to many Sigma Chis's from approximately 4 to 5 major campuses...") Do you spend time with your own chapter brothers, go on dates, attend football and basketball games? Maybe even go to a mixer now and again. Frankly, you - this collective you - seem to spend way too much time worried about what may or may not happen to groups other than your own. Which just seems down right odd to me. Even as a ninth generation Southerner and an SEC Alum, I just don't understand it.

These southern breakaways are looking to preserve the fraternity, whereas the National HQ is looking to destroy it.

Actually, these so-called "breakaways" are not looking to preserve the fraternity, but members that are looking to preserve a specific chapter as they know it or want it to be. Again, fraternities have been evolving since their founding and will continue to do so. If - *if* - they take a wrong direction, I'm fairly confident that the membership will correct the direction.

It is only logical to breakaway from the HQ.

I do agree. It is logical to breakaway from HQ if that is what a chapter - or some members - want to do. Hell, Sigma Chi got it's start when six of the founders broke with the Miami U. Deke chapter. So by all means, make the break and get on with it. I am sure that Sigma Chi, Kappa Alpha Order and Sigma Alpha Epsilon - and others - will survive and continue to prosper.