Legacies

southernyankee · #1 07-17-2006, 11:32 AM

What about the alums that go to recruitment? I know of a few instances where an alum has travelled to her old school to "push" a girl through...or worse, make sure one doesn't get through.

Nothing infuriates my daughter(an active at an SEC school) more than an alumnae who vetoes(no recs) a girl that the other actives like and want, and there is nothing they can do about it. She related a story once where a very nice girl that they all liked, had a rumor spread about her in a small town. An alum that was present at rush and had heard about it, and believed it, refused to listen to the actives when they told her it wasn't true at all. My daughter says that they are the ones in the sorority now, and they are the ones who have to get along with this new sister...it should be their decision, not the alums , about who they are going to be spending their time with.

I do think being a legacy should mean something though...at least get them another round so that the girls have a chance to get to know them and see if she does fit in...but just because she is a legacy should not be the final determining factor.

irishpipes · #2 07-17-2006, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by southernyankee

What about the alums that go to recruitment? I know of a few instances where an alum has travelled to her old school to "push" a girl through...or worse, make sure one doesn't get through.

Nothing infuriates my daughter(an active at an SEC school) more than an alumnae who vetoes(no recs) a girl that the other actives like and want, and there is nothing they can do about it. She related a story once where a very nice girl that they all liked, had a rumor spread about her in a small town. An alum that was present at rush and had heard about it, and believed it, refused to listen to the actives when they told her it wasn't true at all. My daughter says that they are the ones in the sorority now, and they are the ones who have to get along with this new sister...it should be their decision, not the alums , about who they are going to be spending their time with.

I do think being a legacy should mean something though...at least get them another round so that the girls have a chance to get to know them and see if she does fit in...but just because she is a legacy should not be the final determining factor.

You make it sound like alumnae are involved with MS and voting? What? Or are you saying that they are just trying to exert influence?

dgdramadawg · #3 07-17-2006, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by irishpipes

You make it sound like alumnae are involved with MS and voting? What? Or are you saying that they are just trying to exert influence?

At UGA, I've heard stories from several chapters about alums coming into the house during work week to say good or bad things about rushees to make them vote for/against the girls. We never had that happen during the formal rushes when I was there, but I can see how it might frustrate a chapter for an alum to just "drop by" to try to influence voting.

southernyankee · #4 07-17-2006, 11:53 AM

Apparently, they write an "instant" rec and mark "not recommended" on it...if this happens, the GLO cannot take the girl no matter what. So the actives never get to vote on her. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

AlphaFrog · #5 07-17-2006, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by southernyankee

Apparently, they write an "instant" rec and mark "not recommended" on it...if this happens, the GLO cannot take the girl no matter what. So the actives never get to vote on her. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Is this a local?? I don't know of any NPC that would have a policy like this!!

tunatartare · #6 07-17-2006, 12:01 PM

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Is this a local?? I don't know of any NPC that would have a policy like this!!

I don't think there are locals at SEC schools.

AlphaFrog · #7 07-17-2006, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

I don't think there are locals at SEC schools.

I didn't think so, but then again, I've never heard of alums vetoing a PNM either.

adpiucf · #8 07-17-2006, 12:20 PM

Isn't it standard that Alums and actives can write letters to the recruitment committee if they have prior knowledge of a questionable PNM?

dgdramadawg · #9 07-17-2006, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

I don't think there are locals at SEC schools.

I know that there is one local, Xi Delta, at UGA. They are a pretty big group.

Zillini · #10 07-17-2006, 05:29 PM

As with every difficult situation it's almost impossible to comment without knowing the specifics. Instead I'll say I investigate every No Rec received.

Is it a major issue or a minor one? Is it a rumor or fact? I call that alum and find out exactly what is going on. I see if we have any actives that are from the PNMs hometown/area and see what they know. I try to find other alums in the hometown/area that might be able to shed more light on the situation. If I don't know the alum that wrote the No Rec, I see if I can find someone who does in order to get a better take on that alum's character judgement. If applicable, who wrote her rec(s)? I call them too. I talk to the actives that have been recruiting the PNM and really like her.

It's time consuming and difficult because I have to protect the confidentiality of the alum and the reputation of the PNM. So my questions are usually general such as "Polly PNM is from your hometown and she is going through Recruitment. Do you know her? How well do you know her? How long have you known her? What can you tell me about her? Do you think she would make a good sister?" If there is a problem with a PNM, most folks will say something without me having to ask point blank or having to say where I heard it from first.

After all that, I have a meeting with my other Advisors and my Province Director. As a group we discuss the findings and make a final decision. Just as no single active is able to issue a bid, I believe no single alum should be allowed to deny one without a thorough review. Fortunately we don't get too many.

irishpipes · #11 07-17-2006, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by southernyankee

Apparently, they write an "instant" rec and mark "not recommended" on it...if this happens, the GLO cannot take the girl no matter what. So the actives never get to vote on her. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

So if a PNM beats out my daughter for Homecoming Queen or cheerleader, I can screw over that PNM by giving her a "No Rec." Wow. This sounds like a situation where some rules were contorted.