Order of the Eastern Star

[beverysure]

If you want the truth dont listen to these guys because they are bound to COCEAL THE REAL. www.fish4masons.org Now these ex masons will tell the truth they are bound by the BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST. WHO THE SON SETS FREE IS FREE INDEED

DID THE WORD OF GOD MANIFEST IN THE FLESH?

[PrinceHall]

Originally Posted by beverysure

If you want the truth dont listen to these guys because they are bound to COCEAL THE REAL. www.fish4masons.org Now these ex masons will tell the truth they are bound by the BLOOD OF JESUS CHRIST. WHO THE SON SETS FREE IS FREE INDEED

DID THE WORD OF GOD MANIFEST IN THE FLESH?

so since you're listening to some "ex-masons",you think you know it all now,huh?I have heard ex-Omegas,ex-AKA;s,etc.,talk bad about their "ex-organization," but I never look at the organization different.I hear about certain chapter's of XYZ frat when it comes to hazing,but I dont look at the organization as a whole in a bad way.People have left the fraternal order of Masonry as well as Greek-Lettered organizations and organizations in general(i.e. church),because they saw reason to do so whether it made sense to leave or not. People leave organizations for the typical reasons you hear all the time(and really,it's not an epidemic);because they been through a few bad experiences,or just because someone stopped them from doing what they wanted to do in the org.,or because that organization was just not for them,etc...I can go on and on. when it all boils down to it,people make the choice to do what they want to do;nobody can control that but that person....even GOD leaves it up to us to make choices whether right or wrong,but he will ALWAYS show us the right way and he will always speak to us;never leave or forsake us,period. ALL GLO's and Masons/Eastern Stars are taught to NEVER put the organization before GOD,family and other important priorities like your job,school,etc. Greek-Lettered organizations and Masonry are all christian-based organizations;none of them are a religion! In order to be a mason you have to be a believer in GOD;I can't speak for the Greeks on that,but with Masonry,yes....and they check that type of stuff. Most of the masons and eastern stars that I've met are christian's...strong believer's in GOD and christ jesus;Muslims and Jewish can join the Order as well,because they are believers as well.So I speak again,Masonry is NOT a religion,but has alot of religious character in it. Masonry is all through the Holy Bible,because it is symbolic of the Holy bible.See why it is important to do your research,and never dwell off of someone's comments?

[beverysure]

"Always put GOD first..nothing else" which god?


My God is Jesus Christ is yours?

prince i agree with most of what you say. What you said earlier is the same thing a former 33rd degree mason told me in new york and after researching and knowing my bglo ritual I denounced. I loved my frat but I love Jesus Christ more.

[PHA_luv]

I have a honest question to ask . The people who are denouncing their organizations because they are putting God first, did you not know how to do that when you were in your organization?

I'm really trying to get an understanding of the arguments that many people that put up links like this do & I just can't understand their arguments or points . Never once in my organization have I been asked, ordered, or it even been implied to put the organization before anything, especially not God, family, or work.

Second I know how to keep God first in my life no matter how demanding things can be in my life , so is the problem that these people get too caught up in their organizations then see that they are putting their organizations first, then feel so upset about it instead of devoting more time to their savior and put their organization in it's proper place in their life, they feel that they can't balance the two out so it's either one or the other???

I'm really not trying to be funny, I'm just trying to understand since the solution to the issue for these people seems clear to me. Cut back on the org and devote more time to God. It doesn't mean that you have to denounce anything.

[beverysure]

my testimony is... one day i came from the club fell
a sleep and woke up the next day with the thought to
not eat meat for 30 days ...now at this time i was not
a christian i was into all sorts of philosophies and
religions ... i figured what did i have to lose but a
couple pounds .. but 15 days into this no meat fast i
woke up free from weed. it was weird .. then i went to
my job and saw a flyer to audition for a play. i was
cast in a gospel play . when i read the script i knew
this play was about me. the name of the play was MAMA
DEE'S GIRLS. now i am rehearsing with these praying
Christians. no one new that i was not a follower i fit
in because i was raised in the church. before we went
on the road i came home for new years eve 2001 ...i
was headed for a party and on the way i was selling
one of my foul Cd's to this young girl at the gas
station... well as soon as that 10 dollars hit my hand
i was convicted and new i was wrong in pushing this
lyrical pornography. i looked at her and asked what
she was doing tonight and she said she was going to
church. and i knew what God was telling me TO DO. i
walked in church and all i heard was family this and
family that. and for the first time i realized that i
had become an apostle of satan in fact when i looked
at my shirt during church service it was covered with
dragons breathing fire. i left that night and decided
to do a gospel CD. songs just came TO ME and i
recorded them ....7 months later i ended up in Atlanta
at Bishop Eddie Longs church. that was the first time
i heard a preacher who was an omega say that he did a
foolish thing by branding his body. i just brushed it
off. a church from new york invited ME to work with
their choir and i followed them that very weekend . on
the way i brother asked me how was i doing gospel
music and i did not have a bible. i said i don't
know...well i met Sean slaughter around the 4 of July
and we hit it off .AND WE DID A CD CALLED THA DUGEON.
the church gave me my first bible and i was cool .then
A Nigerian prophet layed hands on me and when i
finally got up OFF THE FLOOR ...i went back to my
basement apt in queens and began to devour the bible.
i met a former 33rd degree mason who told me about the
god of the lodge and the connection to frats 2 weeks
later i denounced and about a month or so later GOD
SPOKE TO ME AND TOLD ME TO MARRY THIS WOMEN FROM HAITI
WHOM I HAD JUST MET.

IT WAS THE BEST THING I EVER DONE FALLING IN LOVE
WITH JESUS ...WHO IN RETURN GAVE ME HIS SPIRIT, A WIFE ,3 KIDS
, a HOME ,A VAN AND A MUSIC MINISTRY

THANK YOU YAHSHUA

[PHA_luv]

That is wonderful that you have rebuilt a very strong relationship with God, but I'm sorry I did not see the answer to the question that I asked in your testimony. To me it seemed that if you were trying to answer my question that your life was basically already away from God & then you came back to him. I'm talking about those that already have a strong relationship with God and that already put him first. Let me post up what the original questions that I had up again so that they can clearly be answered.

Originally Posted by PHA_luv

I have a honest question to ask . The people who are denouncing their organizations because they are putting God first, did you not know how to do that when you were in your organization?

I'm really trying to get an understanding of the arguments that many people that put up links like this do & I just can't understand their arguments or points . Never once in my organization have I been asked, ordered, or it even been implied to put the organization before anything, especially not God, family, or work.

Second I know how to keep God first in my life no matter how demanding things can be in my life , so is the problem that these people get too caught up in their organizations then see that they are putting their organizations first, then feel so upset about it instead of devoting more time to their savior and put their organization in it's proper place in their life, they feel that they can't balance the two out so it's either one or the other???

I'm really not trying to be funny, I'm just trying to understand since the solution to the issue for these people seems clear to me. Cut back on the org and devote more time to God. It doesn't mean that you have to denounce anything.

[PrinceHall]

I put GOD as in my lord and savior JESUS CHRIST first,because without him all things are impossible.Alot of people say that,but they say it just to put on a front....I MEAN IT WHEN I SAY IT.

Anybody that put their organization before GOD,family,their job,and school(if applicable),then they're going about everything the wrong way,and it'll catch up to them(it usually does). I don't put Masonry or any other organization that I want to be apart of before GOD,Family,school,and work...NO WAY.

Masonry and GLO's don't serve a god within the organization,you should know that "Beverysure"...you were an Omega,remember?? Well in my eyes,once one always one.


P.S.,whoever made that webiste need to do their research.For instance,they said "Freemasonry has been around for over 300 years,"..........HUH?!
First of all,there's two types of Masonry;Speculative(or Honorary-which is who we are [modern]) and Operative Masonry(ancient).Operative Masons were the original masons who actually built temples,bridges,etc.. waaaay back in the day;Operative (or stone)Masons go back to egypt times,but speculative masonry go back to the 1600's.............go do your research.


I'mma tell you right now "Beverysure",you'll reck your brain trying to figure Masonry out;talking to ex-masons aint gonna do it for you,brother...

[beverysure]

Now i can not speak for those who are christian before they pledge. I was not.

Lets make it clear my testimony is about what happenned to me . If it helps the next person so be it.


I went to a revival at a Holy Ghost Church I had never been to this type of church service before.
well i did not believe in laying on hands and people falling out. Until it happenned to me.

A small nigerian lady layed hands on me and prayed and A 300 lb omega man went in the air and landed head first on the ground.

When i finally got up I left and began to eat the Word of God . Before that night the bible would put me to sleep.

Well I figured that God wanted me to stay at this Haitian Church. The pastor spoke english and treated me like his little brother.

2 weeks later a Former 33rd degree mason met me at the church and shared with me his exp. as a mason in Haiti and America . after studying and praying for 2 weeks i denounced because i knew omega... that frat that i loved would not take that which was revealed to me out of the ritual.

After i took those plates off my truck and sent a letter to nationals about a week later early in the mourning I had a divine encounter. God spoke to me and gave me specific instructions.

Since then I have seen the super natural. I have exp miracles. and every where i preach i sing the song i use to sing as a q


IIIIIII KKNNOOWW iivve BBEEEEN CCCChhhAAANNGED THE ANGEL IN HEAVEN DONE SIGHNED MY NAME.


AMEN BROTHER I DO LOVE YOU GUYS AND I PRAY THAT YOU PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE MASTER JESUS CHRIST GROWS STRONGER EVERYDAY

EZEKIAL 33 IS WHO WE ARE WATCHMEN IN THE NAME OF JESUS

[IASKTHEQUESTION]

Quote: I put GOD as in my lord and savior JESUS CHRIST first,because without him all things are impossible.Alot of people say that,but they say it just to put on a front....I MEAN IT WHEN I SAY IT.

Anybody that put their organization before GOD,family,their job,and school(if applicable),then they're going about everything the wrong way,and it'll catch up to them(it usually does). I don't put Masonry or any other organization that I want to be apart of before GOD,Family,school,and work...NO WAY.

Masonry and GLO's don't serve a god within the organization,you should know that "Beverysure"...you were an Omega,remember?? Well in my eyes,once one always one.


P.S.,whoever made that webiste need to do their research.For instance,they said "Freemasonry has been around for over 300 years,"..........HUH?!
First of all,there's two types of Masonry;Speculative(or Honorary-which is who we are [modern]) and Operative Masonry(ancient).Operative Masons were the original masons who actually built temples,bridges,etc.. waaaay back in the day;Operative (or stone)Masons go back to egypt times,but speculative masonry go back to the 1600's.............go do your research.


I'mma tell you right now "Beverysure",you'll reck your brain trying to figure Masonry out;talking to ex-masons aint gonna do it for you,brother...
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"Always put GOD first..nothing else" End Quote:


Even if you say you don't serve other God's in the organization (I'll give you that right now) you do have to take an oath (pledge) to enter into the organization which is strictly forbodden in the bible. If you are saved (which I believe you are) the only brotherhood you need is the BODY of CHRIST, it does say so many times in the bible that we are indeed brethren, so I'm just curious to know, what does the Masons give you that the BODY of CHRIST doesn't?