Stage set for possible showdown on gay marriage

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I'm just telling you the concerns of people in the corporate world. I personally see no benefit or reason to allow gay marriage, especially beyond something like civil unions.

That's fine, but the fact that you don't see a benefit or reason to allow it doesn't mean it should be prohibited.

[shinerbock]

Well it depends on how you look at it. Prior to a few years ago the definition of marriage was between members of the opposite sex. Why then should we allow gay marriage?

[greekalum]

Prior to a few more years ago only white, male, landowners had the right to vote. Why then should we have allowed anyone else to do so?

[valkyrie]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well it depends on how you look at it. Prior to a few years ago the definition of marriage was between members of the opposite sex. Why then should we allow gay marriage?

Because there is no non-religious reason not to allow it. I don't think that "tradition" is a valid argument.

[shinerbock]

Well, thats your opinion as well. A lot of people in this country value traditions, and the things we hold dear. Unfortunately much of that is under attack from groups on a certain side on the political spectrum.

[greekalum]

Some traditions are discriminatory and our country has a long history of moving towards MORE equal rights, not less. Liberty and justice and equal protection under the law for ALL is a tradition a lot of people in this country also value.

[shinerbock]

I wouldnt say its unfair to gays. Seeing as marriage is between a man and woman, they simply don't fit the bill. In addition, I'm going to start another thread regarding Conservative v. Liberal policy, because this completely idiotic and unfounded political correctness that exists on this board is starting to get to me, and I need to vent.

[SOPi_Jawbreaker]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

I wouldnt say its unfair to gays. Seeing as marriage is between a man and woman, they simply don't fit the bill.

Using that same line of thinking, let's bring back segregation. Marriage should be between blacks and blacks or whites and whites. It's not unfair. If someone happens to fall in love with someone of a different race, well too bad.

Originally Posted by shinerbock

In addition, I'm going to start another thread regarding Conservative v. Liberal policy, because this completely idiotic and unfounded political correctness that exists on this board is starting to get to me, and I need to vent.

Or you could just go back to Fratty.

[RACooper]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well, thats your opinion as well. A lot of people in this country value traditions, and the things we hold dear. Unfortunately much of that is under attack from groups on a certain side on the political spectrum.

Hear! Hear! I agree... damn those neo-conservatives and their corruption or subversion of many tradtional rights and values.

[shinerbock]

Well, as cute as that was, it is pretty inaccurate.

[RACooper]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well, as cute as that was, it is pretty inaccurate.

In what way? Traditionally if you look at the Left and the Right in US politics... and further back in British Parliamentary politics it was the left that was almost always the ones that pulled the "faith" or "emotion" card when it came to political wrangling... now instead it seems to be the new tactic of the conservatives - abandoning academia, intellectualism, and rationalism in favour of taking the left's traditional avenue of political attack.