Stage set for possible showdown on gay marriage

[GeekyPenguin]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

There's a whole bunch of people from both sides demonstrating out in front of the State House. The Mass Equality people have better signs, but the "Let the people vote" folks have catchier chants and better balloons.

The best part is watching the tourists and school groups walking through. I guess they didn't expect this on their trip to Boston.

This is the kind of review that should be on the news. Are these people going to be there all week? I want to go watch a protest.

[tunatartare]

Here are my views on this. I am pro gay marriage. I think that marriage is a basic right that should be allowed to any human being. It's not fair to treat gays as second-class citizens and tell them that they're not allowed to marry because you don't support/approve of their lifestyle but demand that they pay taxes and do everything else that citizens are supposed to do.

[Morgana]

Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

Here are my views on this. I am pro gay marriage. I think that marriage is a basic right that should be allowed to any human being. It's not fair to treat gays as second-class citizens and tell them that they're not allowed to marry because you don't support/approve of their lifestyle but demand that they pay taxes and do everything else that citizens are supposed to do.

Amen sister (or brother, pardon the apparent gender goof!)
RACooper
Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada (home of the largest phallic symbol on Earth.)
Posts: 2,733
Quote:
Originally Posted by shinerbock
I could, I know how liberals hate opposition. You'd much rather everything be from your slant. Ironic then, that people on this site are open-minded, unless of course, you have an opinion like mine. By the way, Moveon.org called, and they want their talking points back.
To bad I'm not a Liberal (party or platform), but rather a Conservative - and I for one support Gay Marriage (and will continue to if Bush's sock puppet challenges it in Parliament).
We went through the arguement up here a few years back, and we pretty much heard it all in the arguement for and against... the Liberals argued Civil & Human Rights, while Harper and co. argued "God & the Bible" ~ needless to say the "conservative" platform lost because the fundies kept shooting themselves in the foot, while the Liberals fell back on the rule of law.
Well suffice to say, Canada hasn't been plunged into hellfire and the heavens haven't rained brimstone down on us... in fact everything is pretty much the same as before except in the minds of the far right up here. I don't know, I guess it's because there are a hell of lot more important issues in the world than stopping two people who love each other from getting married...

I'm glad to see that at least one country seems to have its head on!! As a minister of the Universal Life Church, I personally oppose any form of government sanctioned prejudice, hatred, discrimination and divisive behaviours. Not only do I support gay marriage, I have already told certain friends that when the time comes I will go to their city or state and perform the service. I really disapprove of any religious group that would jeopardize the health and safety of any group by sanctioning them, unless they are doing something that threatens impending harm to another. Marriage is not something that threatens or harms anyone, unless one member of the arrangement is abusive. Marriage is something that has long been mandated and controlled by the state, especially since there are groups that believe it is God's will that a man should have fifty wives, whether those women are legally old enough to wed or not. It is right that the state should decide, but unfortunately, my state happens to be among those lost in the Dark Ages and is proposing legislature to ban gay marriage. I would gladly hang those who are proposing this, were it not "morally wrong" to harm others.
What a stimulating convert!! (my shorthand for conversation)
Well, anyway, blessed be and merry meet to all, even those who are misguided.

[Drolefille]

She's a girl

/Please continue....

[shinerbock]

Well, I really cannot understand how anyone would view opposition to gay marriage as "hatred." I imagine there are those on my side of the debate that in fact do hate gays, and I imagine there are gays who hold prejudices against straight people. I do find it disconcerting, however, that a minister would be not only in favor of gay marriage, but willing to support it by using their place as a minister. Unfortunately I am not very informed regarding your specific church, nor would I make it my place to question your faith or loyalty to it. However, as a Christian, I find the prospect of gay marriage troubling. I certainly could not support a religious ceremony under the premise that God has brought two gay people together to be joined in marriage.

[Drolefille]

No one HERE is talking about forcing or requiring religions to perform gay marriages. They are ONLY talking about the state and civil marriages. Ones that are performed by a Justice of the Peace and not a pastor of any sort. This would not affect your church unless your church decides to allow it. An entirely seperate discussion.

That said, there are some denominations that allow gay marriage.

[shinerbock]

I didn't misunderstand the post. My comments were not out of fear for such ceremonies, they were simply questioning the church who would be willing to perform such.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by GeekyPenguin

This is the kind of review that should be on the news. Are these people going to be there all week? I want to go watch a protest.

They will proabably just be there today. The weird women in favor of slot machines are due back to their picketing places any day now.

I stopped counting the number of little kids asking "What's that?" to the big red "Jesus is our Lord" balloon floating around.

It would be slightly entertaining, except this (and the Big Dig accident) are making Boston look like a Monty Python sketch right now.

[mu_agd]

Originally Posted by KSigkid

They will proabably just be there today. The weird women in favor of slot machines are due back to their picketing places any day now.

I stopped counting the number of little kids asking "What's that?" to the big red "Jesus is our Lord" balloon floating around.

It would be slightly entertaining, except this (and the Big Dig accident) are making Boston look like a Monty Python sketch right now.

Is my buddy that likes to hang out at Park Street and Hynes/ICA wearing posterboards about how Jesus is our Lord and Savier out there today? Seriously, I may have to swing by today.

Oh and the Big Dig stuff is quite interesting to keep updated on with all the negligent homicide charges being thrown around.

[KSigkid]

Originally Posted by mu_agd

Is my buddy that likes to hang out at Park Street and Hynes/ICA wearing posterboards about how Jesus is our Lord and Savier out there today? Seriously, I may have to swing by today.

Oh and the Big Dig stuff is quite interesting to keep updated on with all the negligent homicide charges being thrown around.

He is not there; neither is the guy in the hockey jersey shouting scripture, or Spare Change Guy (my personal favorite).