School Daze question.

DSTCHAOS · #1 07-11-2006, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by KLPDaisy

Maybe, I dunno. I just remember PHA Shriner used to say things like that. Didn't he leave after he made another sn and tried to say that he's an Iota?

That's who I thought you were talking about. I don't want to speak him into existence again so I won't comment any further.

tunatartare · #2 07-11-2006, 01:37 PM

lmao got it

shinerbock · #3 07-11-2006, 02:00 PM

True. However, the idea that "opportunity hoarding" is negative is a new one to me. I don't know what the alternative would be, perhaps opportunity redistribution, which I would clearly stand against.

hmd1014 · #4 07-12-2006, 11:46 AM

shinerbock, why are you here if GC is so antithetical to your "fratty" worldview? It's rich, really, to hear you complaining about knee-jerk thinking and lack of tolerance for different opinions when, if a self-professed liberal decided to stir things up on "your turf," he or she would be met with invitations to drink bleach cocktails, among the milder epithets.

shinerbock · #5 07-12-2006, 12:49 PM

my knee jerk and intolerant reactions? Perhaps you should reread my posts, I'm generally quite civil. As for my "fratty" worldview, I'm not sure what you mean by that. My worldview is a conservative one, where people should create their own success, or inherit it without penalty if life grants them that benefit. I am proudly from the South, and think the stereotypical prejudices that exist here are in no greater amount than the ones that exist in other parts of the country, against the southern United States. I also believe our society should have more class, that we should not glorify rappers, athletes and actors who lack personal responsibility are set bad examples for our young people. I also believe society should encourage young people to dress/act in a way which will prepare them for the real world, and not just one at the factory or at McDonalds. Perhaps if we treat them as if they'll actually have a chance to work on Wall St., some of them might actually make it there. I believe society should not frown upon or shy away from its Christian heritage. We have had that heritage in place for quite some time, and now suddenly it deeply offends a small minority of people? Get over it. Some things are larger than yourself, and of those are the history and traditions of this country. I do not believe the government is our personal fallback, and that neither Bush nor Nagin nor Blanco caused the destruction in New Orleans, nor should we angrily demand they fix it. Likewise I think people should not depend on the government for their welfare, but rather that it is our responsibility as citizens to take care of our own, on our own terms. If that is a "fratty" worldview, so be it.

DSTCHAOS · #6 07-12-2006, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

my knee jerk and intolerant reactions? Perhaps you should reread my posts, I'm generally quite civil. As for my "fratty" worldview, I'm not sure what you mean by that. My worldview is a conservative one, where people should create their own success, or inherit it without penalty if life grants them that benefit. I am proudly from the South, and think the stereotypical prejudices that exist here are in no greater amount than the ones that exist in other parts of the country, against the southern United States. I also believe our society should have more class, that we should not glorify rappers, athletes and actors who lack personal responsibility are set bad examples for our young people. I also believe society should encourage young people to dress/act in a way which will prepare them for the real world, and not just one at the factory or at McDonalds. Perhaps if we treat them as if they'll actually have a chance to work on Wall St., some of them might actually make it there. I believe society should not frown upon or shy away from its Christian heritage. We have had that heritage in place for quite some time, and now suddenly it deeply offends a small minority of people? Get over it. Some things are larger than yourself, and of those are the history and traditions of this country. I do not believe the government is our personal fallback, and that neither Bush nor Nagin nor Blanco caused the destruction in New Orleans, nor should we angrily demand they fix it. Likewise I think people should not depend on the government for their welfare, but rather that it is our responsibility as citizens to take care of our own, on our own terms. If that is a "fratty" worldview, so be it.

Some of your Conservative viewpoints are on target but all things in moderation.

Being too Liberal or too Conservative perpetuates inequality and can skew reality.

shinerbock · #7 07-12-2006, 01:51 PM

Well in our current social climate, being too conservative basically makes you "prejudiced" in many people's opinion. Far too often, being against things like welfare or affirmative action pegs you as automatically racist or prejudiced towards the poor.

Rain Man · #8 07-12-2006, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

my knee jerk and intolerant reactions? Perhaps you should reread my posts, I'm generally quite civil. As for my "fratty" worldview, I'm not sure what you mean by that. My worldview is a conservative one, where people should create their own success, or inherit it without penalty if life grants them that benefit. I am proudly from the South, and think the stereotypical prejudices that exist here are in no greater amount than the ones that exist in other parts of the country, against the southern United States. I also believe our society should have more class, that we should not glorify rappers, athletes and actors who lack personal responsibility are set bad examples for our young people. I also believe society should encourage young people to dress/act in a way which will prepare them for the real world, and not just one at the factory or at McDonalds. Perhaps if we treat them as if they'll actually have a chance to work on Wall St., some of them might actually make it there. I believe society should not frown upon or shy away from its Christian heritage. We have had that heritage in place for quite some time, and now suddenly it deeply offends a small minority of people? Get over it. Some things are larger than yourself, and of those are the history and traditions of this country. I do not believe the government is our personal fallback, and that neither Bush nor Nagin nor Blanco caused the destruction in New Orleans, nor should we angrily demand they fix it. Likewise I think people should not depend on the government for their welfare, but rather that it is our responsibility as citizens to take care of our own, on our own terms. If that is a "fratty" worldview, so be it.

Shinerbock, I wholeheartedly agree with you 100%.

Great points.

DSTCHAOS · #9 07-13-2006, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Shinerbock, I wholeheartedly agree with you 100%.

Great points.

He makes some good points here and there.

DSTCHAOS · #10 07-12-2006, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shinerbock

True. However, the idea that "opportunity hoarding" is negative is a new one to me. I don't know what the alternative would be, perhaps opportunity redistribution, which I would clearly stand against.

It is new to you because you haven't read the abundance of literature on class, gender, and racial inequality.

You stand against opportunity redistribution because you fall under the Functionalist paradigm of inequality (the status quo exists simply because it creates balance--similar to the biological/inherent inferiority models posited by Herrnstein and Murray's The Bell Curve and human capital arguments that argue that inequality exists simply because some people have better skills and try harder than others) and you don't understand that discrimination is based on outcome regardless of intent.