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07-06-2006, 10:16 AM
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Yes, Kddani, you're very right regarding AI being rare. And as you correctly pointed out... many people in many organizations aren't quite sure what the procedures are. This can cause delays, miscommunications, dropped balls, etc.
And here-in lies the problem. In my case, had I not continued to ask questions, I would still be waiting. I fell through the cracks through no fault of anyone-- just that, AI is so rare, it turned out that some of the people trying to get my situation moved ahead didn't fill out the correct paperwork, and things dropped to a complete stand still.
Looking back at my e-mails, nearly an entire year elapsed at one point with no contact from anyone in the organization. (the whole process took three years-- and I wasn't even seeking AI! I didn't know there was such a thing. It was suggested to me by our district president.) What was I to think when so much time elapsed with no contact? It turns out that it WASN'T because they didn't want me.. but rather that everyone involved thought everything was taken care of. I later found out, everything WASN'T taken care of. Again, through no fault of their own. They just didn't know.
A kind soul on Greek Chat made some inquiries on my behalf, and was able to find out where the ball had been dropped to get things moving for me again.
Prior to that, there were so many times that I didn't know if I should continue to contact the organization, or if I should throw in the towel. Not being psychic, it's so hard to know if a GLO has decided not to admit you in, or if someone just forgot to fill out a piece of paperwork. Are you being assertive by keeping contact, are you being a pain? It's so hard to know when you're crossing the line.
I can't blame the PNAMs for being frustrated. It's far kinder to receive a "sorry, you're not for us" than being left to dangle in the wind.
Since this whole AI concept is so rare and relatively new to most organizations, there generally isn't any one specific person appointed to handle that. Maybe there should be... and maybe that will come in the future.
(edited to add that Kddani is correct that the summer is often very slow. People are on vacation, alumnae chapters generally stop until fall, and many groups are busy with convention. My opinion: I wouldn't advise any followup contact until September or October.)
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07-06-2006, 12:16 PM
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If you are that frustrated with us (collective us) then why read the threads? What we need is support and some questions answered, not someone to rant at us like we are kids. Yes, we know it is rare. Yes, we know it is a very special honor. Can that still mean we are impatient? Sure why not? Weren't you (collective you to everyone who rushed in college) impatient or nervous for your final bid to come? Why can't we be impatient for that final vote to come down (in my case) or waiting for that first contact back? I wouldn't even call it impatient; I would put it down as anxious. Sorry, I normally bite my tongue in times like this, but I just get sick of people ranting about this and that when all the person needs is support, especially when it includes me since I am part of this summer's "crop." The same exact thing happened on one of my threads, in the aspect of someone feeling the need to rant, but we are all allowed our opinions. Ecupidelta, whatever you think is right at this point in your life, go for it. Follow your heart (I know it sounds mushy, but it is so true).
P.S. Hmmm...crop..I so claim corn. Ecupidelta..do you want to be soybeans?  Maybe someone else could be wheat, pumpkins, oats, hay...
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07-06-2006, 12:19 PM
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Hang in there, ladies. I certainly did not wait for the "ideal" time in my life to AI.
That being said, it is always important to evaluation all factors when making a major decision about anything.
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07-06-2006, 01:03 PM
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I would suggest using this advice from BlueAngel.....
"A kind soul on Greek Chat made some inquiries on my behalf, and was able to find out where the ball had been dropped to get things moving for me again."
Find someone willing to assist.
And yes, summer is a VERY slow time for alumnae groups as they prepare for the upcoming year, most of them won't have events until Aug/Sept. It can also be very busy at the headquarters level. I know ours is incredibly busy since we just finished convention and our financial year ends July 31.
But I will agree with kddani, going on and on about the waiting isn't a way to cause people to want to help you........
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07-06-2006, 04:46 PM
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Ok.... this thread is about a heartbeat away from being a train wreck! All I wanted was some feedback on how long others have waited AFTER they have MET with a group (which FYI I did meet with once the summer began). I never expected the rants that have shown up about my question!  I never thought asking a question would be construed as complaining about how long it takes!!!! I doubt this will stop anybody but I respectfully ask that the rants find there way somewhere else. I asked the questions that I have because I want feedback and another viewpoint. I don't per se want the "sunshine blown up my butt" but I don't want to feel like I've been beaten over the head either. I don't ask that everything be sugar-coated but I do ask that it at least be fairly nice!!!!! All I wanted was the take of other PNAM's! I know every experience is NOT the same, but I still wanted to know what some of them had to say.
Oh and as to why now.... b/c I feel that this is the right time in my life. I took into account that I MIGHT be going to school. Notice the word MIGHT. I have not applied to any school and even if I apply it clearly does not guarantee that any of them will take me. And if by some chance they do... well that's a bridge to cross when I get there, not before.
And thank you to those of you who sent some warm words my way!
As for my crop..... strawberries....  I love them!!!
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07-06-2006, 08:41 PM
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For my crop, I'll take a nice vintage of grapes.
I'm waiting till this extremely busy month at work is over to contact a local person that I was given the name and email of for one of the organizations. I'll also re-contact the person that first wrote me about it if I don't hear back from her again.
And I'm focusing on two organizations for now, rather than spreading myself thin. These two have philanthropies that are really meaningful to me- and for not so obvious reasons.
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07-06-2006, 09:21 PM
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To answer your question before all the rants started, I think the waiting period really depends on how each sorority approaches AI. We don't know which sorority it is b/c everyone reveals at the end of their AI journey for preserve disclosure. For some it takes a few months and other a couple of years. I think a gauge of PNAM's waiting period really does not give you any insight b/c there are too many variables involved. Treat your experience as your own and whatever time it takes, it takes. That goes with anything that requires a waiting period in life. Take it as it comes, distract yourself in other things and if you believe too much time b/w communication/exchanges (more like 4 months) then call to see what's going on, many times it could be you were lost in the shuffle for whatever reason.
I know very little about AI, but I do know if they did not want you, they will tell you so in a nice and respectful way.
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07-06-2006, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Scandia
For my crop, I'll take a nice vintage of grapes.
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Oh sweet grapes!!!!!!! Are you making your own wine?  After all of this I could use a bottle or two!
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