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06-28-2006, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Marie
Read the post above yours. She made her announcement 2 days early  (though it was known for quite some time that Rosie would be joining the show and that Star would not be retained as a part of the cast - for weeks). THEY then made the decision to make yesterday her last day. The breach was on their parts.
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"They" made the decision because Star acted like a jagoff!
SHE DIDN'T TELL HER COHOSTS WHICH IS THE MAIN THING THAT I AM SAYING WAS UNPROFESSIONAL AND INCONSIDERATE. Whatever goes on "behind closed doors" - she told her cohosts, producer, director etc she was going to make the announcement Thursday, and flipped the script without telling them. I mean, what the? Did Joy put a booger on Star's Danish Tuesday morning and she decided she just couldn't take it until Thursday? She could have exited gracefully on Thursday, instead she made herself look like a publicity hungry jerk.
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06-29-2006, 10:55 AM
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SHE DIDN'T TELL HER COHOSTS WHICH IS THE MAIN THING THAT I AM SAYING WAS UNPROFESSIONAL AND INCONSIDERATE.
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So The F*@k What!?!?!?
She made the announcement 2 days early. How did that really alter/damage the show or the other cohosts??? The show easily operates w/1 less person, so her not returning wouldn't cause the show to not aire the following 2 days. Clearly they pulled together the new intro in no time. Her making the announcement early is not that big of a deal.
The show had already shyted on her by not renewing her contract, and then not having the balls to admit that they were giving her the shaft. Why shouldn't she leave on her own terms?? Maybe sitting there bullshyting like everything was alright just got to be too much for her. All that she did was announce her departure (in a respectful and vague way). Its not like she cussed Barbara out, poisioned their coffee, and kicked them in the shins. Sheesh!
The bottom line is that if everyone didn't have such a big problem with her as an individual, then her exit wouldn't even be an issue. No one would have had a problem with Meredith or Elisabeth making an early announcement about their departure.
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06-29-2006, 11:07 AM
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The show had already shyted on her by not renewing her contract...
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"Showbiz" people do or don't have their contracts renewed on all levels with a fair amount of regularity.
In the end, that's a business decision that may have to do with ratings, salary or sometimes personality. We appear to have, if nothing else, a huge clash of egos in this case.
It may well be that hiring Rosie (I'm not a fan of either one) was done in hopes that the verbal fireworks between her and Star would add some spice to the show. Who knows except the ABC Execs.
If the ABC Brass indeed told Star months ago that her deal would not be renewed, it sounds like there was at least some degree of professionalism on their part. It also appears that they were hoping that her departure could be handled in a way that was the least embarassing to her or the show and network. In any event, not renewing a contract is not generally considered "shyting" on someone -- it's a fact of life in the entertainment (and, yes, even the news) business.
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06-29-2006, 12:10 PM
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Once again we are clearly speculating on what happened and why Star decided to make her announcement early...Maybe she was just fed up with the whole scenario and was tired of fighting (as mentioned before, we don't know what went on behind closed doors)...
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Basically what you are saying is that a boss should never hire a person that one of his workers doesn't get along with? It doesn't work that way. The boss is going to look for who does the best job. Not whether ONE person doesn't like them.
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No what I am saying is, If I, being a woman of influence, were placed in a position where I would be working with someone I didn't care to much about and my supervisor knew about (depending on the relationship with my supervisor) then I would consider it a stab in the back by my...however, if I didn't have an open relationship with my supervisor and couldn't provide feedback, then maybe I wouldn't care...I just would work with the individual because #1 - it is the RIGHT thing to do! Of course, there are going to be people that you DON'T LIKE, but in STAR's case, to me it is just different! They would probably find things to DISAGREE about just because of the mere fact that they don't like each other...but again, here I am speculating!
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06-29-2006, 12:16 PM
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One thing I think is interesting is how we're all speculating as to what happened. I didn't watch the Larry King interview so maybe someone that did can fill us all in.
It seems to me like there simply was an agreement made behind the scenes to handle Star's departure/termination in a certain manner (i.e. announcing it on Thursday). When Star decided to not handle it in the agreed upon manner, they asked her not to return to work. I could see the same thing happening in any sort of business, not only a t.v. show.
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06-29-2006, 12:22 PM
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It seems to me like there simply was an agreement made behind the scenes to handle Star's departure/termination in a certain manner (i.e. announcing it on Thursday). When Star decided to not handle it in the agreed upon manner, they asked her not to return to work. I could see the same thing happening in any sort of business, not only a t.v. show.
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That's my guess. I've seen it happen many times in TV, and heard of it at least as many in other industries.
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06-29-2006, 12:25 PM
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It seems to me like there simply was an agreement made behind the scenes to handle Star's departure/termination in a certain manner (i.e. announcing it on Thursday). When Star decided to not handle it in the agreed upon manner, they asked her not to return to work.
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I think that we're all in agreement on this. Some people just seem to think that this is a BIG deal and further evidence that Star is the monstrous bitch who has been a drag on the show from the begining.
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06-29-2006, 12:21 PM
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It may well be that hiring Rosie (I'm not a fan of either one) was done in hopes that the verbal fireworks between her and Star would add some spice to the show.
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It is my understanding that their agreement w/Rosie when she was hired was that Star would not be on the show. That is a shyty move. Again, her making the announcement early is not that big of a deal, and no one would have a problem with it if it was someone other than Star.
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06-29-2006, 12:24 PM
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It is my understanding that their agreement w/Rosie when she was hired was that Star would not be on the show. That is a shyty move. Again, her making the announcement early is not that big of a deal, and no one would have a problem with it if it was someone other than Star.
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Jessica Simpson wasn't hired for the remake of Dallas because JLo didn't want her. It happens all the time. It's a matter of who the producers wanted more, and apparently, in this case, it was Rosie.
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06-29-2006, 12:26 PM
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Jessica Simpson wasn't hired for the remake of Dallas because JLo didn't want her. It happens all the time. It's a matter of who the producers wanted more, and apparently, in this case, it was Rosie.
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Soooo...that makes it not shyty?
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06-29-2006, 12:31 PM
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Soooo...that makes it not shyty?
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It's business, not personal. I didn't like Star, but I didn't not like her. The producers do what they think they need to do to keep the $$$ coming in.
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06-29-2006, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by AlphaFrog
Jessica Simpson wasn't hired for the remake of Dallas because JLo didn't want her. It happens all the time. It's a matter of who the producers wanted more, and apparently, in this case, it was Rosie.
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Not to hijack, but is JLo going to be in the remake of Dallas? LOL
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06-29-2006, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Marie
It is my understanding that their agreement w/Rosie when she was hired was that Star would not be on the show. That is a shyty move. Again, her making the announcement early is not that big of a deal, and no one would have a problem with it if it was someone other than Star.
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If they told Star at that point, I think it was an honorable thing to do.
Again, this is very likely a business decision in the end.
As for her making the announcement prematurly, there are often agreements on when and how something will be announced for competitive reasons. If that kind of understanding was in place (obviously I'm only speculating), then making the announcement early IS a big deal.
If nothing else, Star and the show are certainly getting a fair amount of publicity out of the whole mess. I can't help but wonder if that plays into this whole senario.
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06-29-2006, 12:32 PM
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As for her making the announcement prematurly, there are often agreements on when and how something will be announced for competitive reasons. If that kind of understanding was in place (obviously I'm only speculating), then making the announcement early IS a big deal.
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*Shrug* I just disagree, and like I've said...regardless of whether or not it was a big deal to the show I DO NOT believe that it would be a big deal to the people on this board if it was someone other than Satr.
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06-30-2006, 12:20 AM
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*Shrug* I just disagree, and like I've said...regardless of whether or not it was a big deal to the show I DO NOT believe that it would be a big deal to the people on this board if it was someone other than Satr.
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Absolutely not. If Baba or Meredith or Joy would have done the same thing, I would say the EXACT same things about them I did about Star.
Janeane Garofolo did something similar on Saturday Night Live - begged to be on the show, then once she got on, trashed everyone of her castmates and the writers. She demanded let out of her contract early which left the show in the lurch as far as female castmembers were concerned. There's a trust in doing a live on-air show with other people and breaking that trust is a crummy thing to do. Period.
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