Does your HQ *really* want to know about hazing?

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well seeing as my chapter was far and away better run than our national organization, it didn't bother me. We needed them for a single thing...insurance.

Sometimes Companies just do not work well.
And sometimes they get overhauled and sometimes they do not.

My Chapter fell down and is now out because they failed. Companies fail for same reasons.

I am sorry to hear the your GLO 'Company' seems to be in the need for an overhaul. I know that mine went though one-and it seemed to have helped.

[shinerbock]

Well they need an overhaul in my opinion. I'm sure they serve other chapters well, but we were moving in seperate directions. We needed no financial or organizational help, nor did we appreciate the way they were PC'ing our fraternity educational material. Other chapter very well may have appreciated, it just didn't work for us.

[Tom Earp]

Is over haul maybe to strong a usage?

Remember, The Members are the ones who can rule as The HQ members are there to support and admonish Chapters if there is problems.

Not knowing who Your GLO is, I can understand as We too had problems and have made changes.

hings are turning around on many fronts and hopefully for the better.

Each Chapter at a school refelcts on a whole GLO.

[jon1856]

Most, if not all, GLO have conventions at which changes in officers, rules and policies are made. Ever go to one? Ever try to cause change?
And just what PC related changes are you upset with?
And as Tom Earp points out, without knowing your GLO, hard to be of any greater help with ideas or advise.

[33girl]

Originally Posted by jon1856

And as Tom Earp points out, you are one of the very few who do not display your 'colors'.

Not true. Let's not get on that tack because it's pointless.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well they need an overhaul in my opinion. I'm sure they serve other chapters well, but we were moving in seperate directions. We needed no financial or organizational help, nor did we appreciate the way they were PC'ing our fraternity educational material. Other chapter very well may have appreciated, it just didn't work for us.

Why would you ever want your fraternity to expand and be strong at other schools? Especially when the other chapters aren't like yours? Would you refer to a member of your organization from a different chapter as brother?

Or more specifically, how about a member from one of the newer chapters which fully utilizes the HQ's educational materials to the exclusion of more traditional induction/education practices?

[jon1856]

Originally Posted by shinerbock

Well they need an overhaul in my opinion. I'm sure they serve other chapters well, but we were moving in seperate directions. We needed no financial or organizational help, nor did we appreciate the way they were PC'ing our fraternity educational material. Other chapter very well may have appreciated, it just didn't work for us.

You have listed several complaints about your (unknown) National Office but fail say just what they are.

You indicate that they are (now) too PC. What does that mean to you? To us?

You indicate that you (and/or your entire chapter) seems to feel and believe that you are better then your National ( and other chapters) in someways that you do not detail.

Again, without any details from you I can only offer advise on what I have seen and directly expienced.

Generally, houses that think they know it all, fall down on their face at some point.

The other option is to get out of you GLO and go local indi. Or find another GLO that you perfer-if that can even be done.