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06-05-2006, 10:17 PM
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Apologize for dropping in, but you should send your story to the NRA. This is more than a fraternity issue, this is a 2nd amendment issue that the university is infringing on! The NRA would probably love to take on your case and sue the university for free on your behalf.
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Damn. Good. Idea.
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06-13-2006, 01:10 PM
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We've decided that we don't want to provoke the University. We're going to continue with our operations off-campus and let them make the first move. Our Grand Council along with the chapter believe that it is better to let the University to act first, that way it's stronger for us, they'll look like an even bigger aggressor. But if they push it we will contact the ACLU, TheFire.org, NIC, and the other national GLO's on our campus. We've kinda dropped the whole gun issue b/c it was felt that nothing could be advanced on this route. It was more the guns were the excuse to kick us off, they've been trying to nail us for a few years now. We think that if they try to come after us it will be about taking students and continuing operations, which is a first amendment issue, as our legal council told us.
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06-14-2006, 06:19 PM
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they've been trying to nail us for a few years now.
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For what?
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06-15-2006, 12:24 AM
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Anything. Clarion has made it more than clear in the past 7 or so years that they want to get rid of greek life. They look for any little thing any try to make a case out of it. Just this past semester DPhiE got in trouble on hear-say, and then when the girl who filed the complaint admitted she was put up to it by another sorority and that it wasn't true, the board still found them in violation and said they couldn't take any new members in the fall, which is unconstitutional for clarion to do, only PanHel, NPC, or their National can do that. Clarion has been persecuting fraternities for 7 years. They bring every fraternity up on something just to see if it'll stick and it occationally does.
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06-15-2006, 09:31 AM
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Anything. Clarion has made it more than clear in the past 7 or so years that they want to get rid of greek life. They look for any little thing any try to make a case out of it. Just this past semester DPhiE got in trouble on hear-say, and then when the girl who filed the complaint admitted she was put up to it by another sorority and that it wasn't true, the board still found them in violation and said they couldn't take any new members in the fall, which is unconstitutional for clarion to do, only PanHel, NPC, or their National can do that. Clarion has been persecuting fraternities for 7 years. They bring every fraternity up on something just to see if it'll stick and it occationally does.
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The problem with that D Phi E thing is Bloomsburg has done something similar (i.e. not let groups take pledges) and gotten away with it, because no one was smart enough to fight it. So if they can do it Clarion can too.
What board was this? That conduct board that has no one Greek on it?
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06-15-2006, 11:48 AM
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Sounds like a class-action suit, if you ask me.
Is Calrion private? I know privates can set rules and regs as they see fit pretty easily....
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06-15-2006, 12:01 PM
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No. Clarion is similar to UW-M (former state teachers' college).
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06-15-2006, 12:35 PM
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The problem with that D Phi E thing is Bloomsburg has done something similar (i.e. not let groups take pledges) and gotten away with it, because no one was smart enough to fight it. So if they can do it Clarion can too.
What board was this? That conduct board that has no one Greek on it?
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It was the University Judicial/Conduct Board. The one where you're luck if you have a Greek on it, and if you do, they're usually either honorary/service(which don't have the best relations with socials) or they're in the universities pocket.
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04-02-2007, 06:51 PM
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I was a member of PSK at Clarion beginning Fall 1976. Though I've lost touch with most everyone I went to school with, I'm curious as to what is going on with the situation between the Administration and the Chapter? Is the 'non recognition' for a specified time?
It was sad for me to see that most of the fraternities that were active on campus during my days are no longer around. Groups like Theta Xi, Theta Chi, Sigma Chi look to be no more. From what I know, the University no longer allows 'local' fraternities, they must be affiliated with a National organization. Although never perfect, Greek Life can be a great addition to a students life at college.
Keep me informed if possible.
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