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Old 03-05-2006, 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by Tom Earp
While that may be true, but to flaunt it, is shear Stupidity.

Whether it was The Chapter or a few still reflects on the total entitity such as The Chapter.

I do not agree if a few did it then teh Total get punished but that is the way it is. Via Association isnt it?

They Were and They Did, So all must have done it?
Tom, my point is not that they weren't stupid for doing it, or shouldn't have expected what happened. My objective here is to highlight the denial of reality which has in the past surrounded dealings between administrations and chapters.

A suspension with a provision that the chapter shall have no alcohol related activities in the past was an agreement that occured almost automatically and without thought. In the past, it was rare that even a report of a supposed party to the administration would ever see any follow-up punishment. These types of agreements are typically little more than symbollic as both parties know that the chapter members (college kids) are going to drink anyhow.

So now that we have confirmation that these kids are breaking the rules of an agreement that should have never been proposed in the first place, why are we having different consequences? I figure that denial is a premise that is part of the agreement. The very idea that a bunch of college kids would agree to not drink -- and then follow through is ludicrous to me and anyone who has ever been there.

How many of us came from dry campuses? Those of us that did -- did you and three of your buddies from your chapter ever get together for a beer? I don't see why proof (a facebook posting) is so important here -- it's something that everyone generally accepts happens anyway, what does proof of this thing occuring change?

The results here seem to highlight to me that Greek Life advisors, administrators, and headquarters in general need to stop making agreements where denial of reality is an accepted premise. I'd be far more comfortable with rules such as not having police incidents, reports of hazing or alcohol related injuries being reported, etc. as part of these types of suspensions. For the suspension terms to have centered around an entire chapter not drinking alcohol for a specified period of time is just for the lack of a better word, idiotic.
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