International Adoption

[SoCalGirl]

How does citizenship work with international adoptions?

[honeychile]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

How does citizenship work with international adoptions?

One of my closest sisters adopted her daughter from Romania. They were almost through with the paperwork when her husband was transferred to Switzerland. So, they were able to go from their new home in Switzerland, spend a month in Romania, then take her back to Switzerland.

My sister then had to come back to the United States for six months, to establish her daughter's citizenship. During that time, her husband had to go to a meeting in California. She called me and said, "I'm here in (small town) with Amanda, my husband is on a business trip to California, and my dog is alone on the Continent!"

I do know that, days after the six months, they were able to get Amanda a passport and go back to Switzerland (until they were transferred again).

[adpi*violet]

Originally Posted by SoCalGirl

How does citizenship work with international adoptions?

"Under the Child Citizenship Act of 2000 all adopted children, under the age of 18 years old, will be granted automatic citizenship upon the finalization of their adoption in the United States."

Depending on the country of origin, this could be soon after arrival or, I know for Korea's case, it can take up to a year. Not sure how long it takes for other countries.

[DSTRen13]

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We (my husband & I) have been discussing adoption (domestic & international), so I'm interested to hear any and all thoughts you all might ahve to add to this thread ...

[Leslie Anne]

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I'm an aunt! My sister and I just got back on Saturday from Russia. Sis is now mommy to a beautiful, healthy baby girl.

It's such a relief to have the adoption over with. For some unknown reason, the process took my sister three years. It was so stressful but, of course, well worth it.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

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I'm an aunt! My sister and I just got back on Saturday from Russia. Sis is now mommy to a beautiful, healthy baby girl.

It's such a relief to have the adoption over with. For some unknown reason, the process took my sister three years. It was so stressful but, of course, well worth it.

The mom who returned her son to Russia via plane probably had something to do with the slow down

But congratulations to your sister! (And you the new aunt )

[ASUADPi]

Originally Posted by Leslie Anne

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I'm an aunt! My sister and I just got back on Saturday from Russia. Sis is now mommy to a beautiful, healthy baby girl.

It's such a relief to have the adoption over with. For some unknown reason, the process took my sister three years. It was so stressful but, of course, well worth it.

Congratulations!

[Leslie Anne]

^^^ Yikes! Thanks for the info. I'll let her know. She's found a pediatrician who specializes in internationally adopted children. One of the things she's learned is that there can be medical conditions that go untreated in some countries, so a thorough physical is a must as soon as the baby gets to the U.S.

[SigKapSweetie]

There isn't a 'test' for FAS. Certain physical features can be suggestive of possible fetal alcohol exposure, but this is not true for all children with FAS, and the diagnosis is very difficult to make in infants and toddlers. Children with more severe cases of FAS can be identified in part by developmental delay and/or mental retardation, but this is still not conclusive. It's a clinical diagnosis that should be made by a qualified pediatrician or child psychiatrist.

That said, most of the kiddos up for adoption in Russia have medical records that can be daunting to prospective parents, who haven't seen many of the diagnoses before and don't realize that many of these children are arbitrarily labeled with diagnoses. Leslie Anne, see if your sister's international pediatrician is willing to review video footage sent via computer from your sister while she's in the orphanage. This can sometimes help to make a preliminary diagnosis. The internet is amazing!

[Leslie Anne]

Thank you so much for the suggestion, SigKapSweetie! Reviewing footage is a brilliant idea and I'll definitely pass that along to my sister.

[Honeykiss1974]

Good thread. I'm just thinking outloud here, but honestly, if I adopted a child that was from a different culture/ethnicity than myself, honestly, I don't think I would make a concentrated effort to expose them to whatever their heritage is - especially if their culture is something that I normally do not associate with on a regular basis. I akin it to people telling me how much they "know black culture" because they went to a Junetheenth festival one year or something along those lines. I think the child already knows that they are visually, different from the rest of the family so why reinforce it especially when it seems "forced'?

I dunno...I say all this now but who knows lol. I'm not sure how I would find that balance between true learning of one's self versus awkward attempts?

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by Honeykiss1974

Good thread. I'm just thinking outloud here, but honestly, if I adopted a child that was from a different culture/ethnicity than myself, honestly, I don't think I would make a concentrated effort to expose them to whatever their heritage is - especially if their culture is something that I normally do not associate with on a regular basis. I akin it to people telling me how much they "know black culture" because they went to a Junetheenth festival one year or something along those lines. I think the child already knows that they are visually, different from the rest of the family so why reinforce it especially when it seems "forced'?

I dunno...I say all this now but who knows lol. I'm not sure how I would find that balance between true learning of one's self versus awkward attempts?

I wonder if HoneyKiss still feels this way.

There are ways to educate and socialize children without it being forced; and it helps to educate the parent(s), as well. Not connecting your child to their race and ethnicity and nationality is a bad idea. I don't understand why a family/person would adopt a child from a particular race and ethnicity or nationality if the family/person does not associate with that race and ethnicity and nationality.

[VandalSquirrel]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

I wonder if HoneyKiss still feels this way.

There are ways to educate and socialize children without it being forced; and it helps to educate the parent(s), as well. Not connecting your child to their race and ethnicity and nationality is a bad idea. I don't understand why a family/person would adopt a child from a particular race and ethnicity or nationality if the family/person does not associate with that race and ethnicity and nationality.

Because they want babies not older children, as we've discussed before.

[DrPhil]

Originally Posted by VandalSquirrel

Because they want babies not older children, as we've discussed before.

That want doesn't really answer my question so I'll expand my question.

Why do people adopt interracially and internationally if they have no point of reference for that race and ethnicity or nationality, and do not plan on changing that in order to educate the child.

[Drolefille]

Originally Posted by DrPhil

That want doesn't really answer my question so I'll expand my question.

Why do people adopt interracially and internationally if they have no point of reference for that race and ethnicity or nationality, and do not plan on changing that in order to educate the child.

Probably the same reason they say they're colorblind. I think they just don't think about it. Or they just have no concept of the issues that could come up, even if it's something as (seemingly) simple as doing their daughter's hair.