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Originally posted by Ex greek:
The white sox are in third right now However their younger players are coming into their own so the second half should be good. Cliff floyd got in because of an injury to mets pitcher rick reed.
How is estes doing this year? I am really surprised at how bad livan hernandez is doing this year. He is a good pitcher. Hey who knows, maybe the dodgers will cool off and your team will hit a winning streak. Anything can happen yet.
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Hey Ex greek! Well, my Giants are in third too

. Maybe you guys will totally surge during the second half and knock down the Twins or something

! Or you could look at the wild card. The Giants are 5.5 games back from first place Arizona

. I hate Arizona as well as, of course, the 2nd place Dodgers, yuck! The Giants are SO sub-par this year, it's making me mad! All this talent we have, and we're just totally under-achieving.
Ya know, about Livan Hernandez and Shawn Estes. Livan had a HORRIBLE stretch of like 10 games where he just, plainly speaking, sucked. He is doing a lot better recently, that we Giants fans think he's finally getting his stuff back! I think the last 4 games he has been stellar. On Sunday, he only gave up 3 R, had 11Ks, but didn't get a decision

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Shawn Estes - well, he has had mostly a wonderful first half, with the exception of 2 dodger games (ughhhhh) and the most recent game - Saturday against Milwaukee. I think he is the only pitcher of the Giants (and maybe the MLB) who had never lost at home before! but unfortunately fate reversed itself and he lost Saturday. HIs past 3 starts haven't been so good!
Unfortunately, I don't know if you know or not - but Estes is a VERY emotional player, who really berates himself if he doesn't do well

. So a lot of people say that his recent loss against Milwaukee won't be good for him, since he has to sit on it all throughout the All-Star Break till his next start! Hopefully he will put it behind him and do well in the second half, like he has mostly done so throughout the first half!!
Hopefully all the NL West teams but the Giants will suck in the 2nd half

. I really hate Arizona and the Dodgers!!!
[This message has been edited by newbie (edited July 10, 2001).]